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BillieTheBot
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Has much changed? Certainly the Tubes and buses dont seem any less full and London seems very similar to before. I personally think the shooting at Stockwell was more shocking than the bombings, it certainly seemed to stun my friends more.
Do you think anything has changed for the better or worse?
Do you think anything has changed for the better or worse?
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After politicaly wise I don't think much have change either, expect maybe a bit more pressure between no-muslim and muslim... Maybe a bit more racism have grown since then...
Anyway... There is a threat from terrorism. It's home grown. Start the intergration process. Sort of the whole immigration and asylum system - has not been achieved - could be letting anyone in and YES one may be a terrorist, who knows? This is NOT racist, it's reality.
Muslims need to get the message across a lot more about their religion being peaceful etc as the current wave of attacks proves the latter.
Plus these attacks were not done because we went to war with Iraq. They may have increased the anger but they were not the cause. The whole ideology is evil, all countries have been affected some what and all countries certainly didn't engage in the Iraq war. Plus there is NO justification for these attacks. They are simplely pure evil. World unite and combat this evil.
What liberals? Who are they? Where?
Start the integration process? How? Force people not to be Muslim?
Pure evil? So we shouldn't try to understand the causes at all, its just Satans work and thats that?
One year on the risk we face from extremist Muslim terrorists is just as great, if not even greater. Peter Clarke of the Metropolitan Police's Anti-Terrorism Branch said last week that no fewer than 70 further terrorist plots are currently under investigation. As the former Guardian writer Melanie Philips said "the mortal threat to Britain from Islamist terror appears to have increased many times over." Unfortunately I think she might be right.
It's well known that the majority of Muslims oppose terrorism but it's unfortunately also been established that among Britain's 1.6 million Muslims between 7% and 16% think suicide bombs on British targets are justifiable. A few polls really confirm what has been known for a long time, while most Muslims are on our side there is a minority who aren't - and this minority is huge encompassing hundreds of thousands of Muslims.
But while there is some legitimate criticism to be made of President Bush, the police and the security services much of the left is silent on the terrorist threat and the danger of extremist Islam and instead devotes its time to bashing Bush, Christians (who er interestingly don't blow people up on the train) and the police and our security services. If 7/7 didn't wake the left up to the terrorist threat - and for the most part it didn't I hate to think what would.
I'm giving my view, I found the shooting more shocking. If you assume that because I say that I think the 7th July was 'insignificant' that's purely your judgement and not mine.
No that is racist. Intergration process such as having signs in English only, more emphasis on history lessons, imo get rid of multiculturalism, ghettos and very unhealthy - that sort of stuff.
Blowing innocents up on a bus for no reason is evil in my opinion. There is no just cause, it's evil.
What? So, on the basis that you dont know me at all, that I've said all of about 100 words in this thread you are making a judgement on my opinions and my judgements about the 7th of July? On what basis?
Niether you or Disillusioned really have the faintest idea how I feel about July the 7th at all. I dont remember having a conversation with either of you about it on the day or in the previous year. So I'd be grateful if you could keep your pathetic assumptions to yourself.
Get rid of multiculturalism? So we all have to be Christian and eat only English food (what ever that is).
You cant get rid of multiculturalism because there is no single culture.
7/7 was a deliberate attack on the west which was the actions of a world wide terrorist group.
There is a British culture in Britain, and you may ask what that is... who knows these days when every other culture is recognised apart from ours!
But we've had bombings before, we've had terrorism in one form or another for 100 years or more. This was an extreme version certainly, but it wasn't something all that new or all that unexpected.
The shooting of an innocent man dead with no warning by the Police was new, was shocking and was unexpected.
So you want us all to partake in 'british culture' but you're not really sure what that is?
I celebrated 4th of July with friends, was that a bad thing?
The shooting was shocking but then again, the police have a job, they need to protet us. It is so hard in this day in age. I wouldn't like to be in their position so I will not be as quick to criticse them. They have my 110% support.
We all have our worries and terrorism is a worry to me.
Multicultralism seems to put every other culture first apart from ours and i hate that. Ghettos where masses of a certain group hide out and don't intergrate.
Why is it different? Really, they are terrorists who because we dont agree want to kill us, similar bombs, different reason.
I criticise them because based on a dodgy identification they shot someone dead, then police officers changed the log book after the event to cover their mistakes.
This current threat is by far the worse we've ever had.
Like I said, there will be mistakes, but rather the police deal with it than me. They have my support.
You keep saying that, but why? What is the actual difference?
Leaving aside the very dubious links between various disperate terrorist groups around the World, what actual difference does that make to us here?
Just a bit of perspective as to how big a problem terrorism is. 52 people died on 7/7. Over 3000 people die every year in traffic accidents. Of course they are less shocking because they are accidents, but our liberties aren't being removed to save their lives, are they? A life is a life after all. In fact more people die in the UK in traffic accidents per year, than died in the World Trade Centre attack. However, far more died as a result of the knee-jerk reactions of various governments.
Except of course its not, but even saying it is, what actual difference does that make to us here?
Are they ghettos in the UK? News to me...
Their threats that 7/7 was only the beginning seem pretty empty.