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I've had this conversation a couple of times and I think murderers/rapists doing life sentences should be used as guinea pigs for drug testing. Fair enough, drugs are tested on animals but a human's body and the way it works is different.
Considering these people have took a life, they could use theirs to maybe give someone elses life back through drug testing for diseases/illnesses.
I recently heard that Britain is considering paedophiles get castrated.. it's apparently used in Germany and has proven successful, I know some people might see it as inhumane, but I'm all for it.
It will never happen.
Yes and all im saying is that once youve fucked up someones life entirely, saying you will give them compensation is hardly a great reply...
and im just posing questions for the discussion here.
Whats the average length of time death row prisoners spend on death row? Some of them are there for over 30 years because of their appeals...
and i think its a little silly to say you know how such people would feel
That's hardly the point.
I didn't.
Surely that would depend on what you actually did to someone's life? Obviously, if you killed their parents, then no compensation wouldn't work...
Isnt it?
Death row inmates are given HUGE chances to appeal...for pretty much everything under the sun...We dont give the same things to those who have been locked up...
You just said that if I were in their position, I would feel differently...:dunno:
Well in the context of the thread, we are talking about locking someone up wrongly....removing a huge chunk of their lives and possibly doing even more damage depending on what happens outside.
The death penalty is a very very slippery slope. As others have said people have been proved innocent after the sentance has been carried out before. Or bent policemen/women. But then i think if its someone whos killed dozens of times before. DNA, witnesses at the sence and 100% no doubt that they did it. And likely that their'd do it again then maybe.
But i do believe that they should be punished. I dont agree with them getting a sentance then released early, Life should mean life not 25yrs and out in 4-8years.
Rapests and paedophiles should have their bits chopped off (if male, not sure for females), and left to rot (harsh i know). Theft i've always liked the idea of how the middle east deal with it, chop the persons hand off + the prison sentance.
Yes i know these are a little on the hardside, and would probably end up costing tax payer more money, but sometimes (not all the time) i think it would be a good way of saying "you do this your going to pay". but then i'm in a evil mood at the moment.
Just what I was thinking :eek:
That is an extreme and scary proposition; true that the current system has many problems and fails a lot of people but I don't think dismembering people is any kind of solution. It's barbaric.
Touché!
Why?
In fact I recknon very few could do it.
Can you explain to me why its wrong? Other than your own personal opinion that you seem to be projecting upon everyone else...
Why is human life sacred? Its common as muck, its easy as hell to come up with, its easy as hell to extinguish...Why is it sacred? because god said so?
Do you think the original hunter gatherers thought human life was sacred or do you think the problem with murder is simply a practical one? Society and civilisation cannot function if we continually kill each other off.I dont believe its to do with life being sacred...These days im sure people think that, but why? I dont understand the reasoning behind it..
The route human civilisation has taken means that we cannot have people running round killing others...Its detrimental to advancement and society...If humans had always thought life was so sacred, why has the death penalty only become a bad thing in the last hundred years, even in this country...
Its not as though the americans suddenly invented the death penalty...its been around since the dawn of time and its only extremely recently that people have started to look at it differently.
I agree, but why stop at executions?
If your pro-choice you should be made to take part in a abortion, if you're anti-choice you should be forced to work in a adoption agency.
Pro the Iraq war - there's a place in the infantry just for you. Oh, you're anti the war. Never mind, we''re still exhuming the graves of the dead in Iraq - here's a shovel.
Happy to eat meat? well here's your next roast beef dinner - shame you have to kill the cow first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Do you really want me to explain to you why is it wrong to kill people?
Can I go round your place later and kill your entire family? I trust you won't mind...
So why stop at executions? Because killing a human being is on an entirely different league to anything else.
No, i want you to explain to me why human life is 'sacred'...not why it is wrong to kill people...those are completely different issues..
Of course you cant, and thats a silly analogy.....obviously I will care if someone i love is hurt..but that doesnt mean that objectively I cant see that their lives dont mean that much..
I don't agree. I'm quite fond of proper sanitation arrangements, but I'm not particually keen on working in a sewer.
Part of being civilised is that most people do shy away from the dirty bits. Its not that we should force people into doing the dirty work, just that we should recognise those that do. I'm burbling now, slightly, and thinking more of soldiers, police, yeah and people who work in abatoirs rather than hangmen - as for the record I'm against executions except in a few extreme circumstances (mutiny in war and high treason for the record).
As for the abortion I hadn't particually thought about the terms, but I suppose I'm broadly pro-choice in most circumstances and just subconciously used the terms I'm most comfortable with.
All the suggestions I made were to do with killing in some sense, through hunger, war (or unwillingness to face the same).
Though admittedly my view on abortion is that its not - but I recognise that many people think it is and thinking about it perhaps a better example than adoption would be treating women who had illegal, botched backstreet abortions because the legal, safe route wasn't available