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Guantanamo Closing?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5102528.stm
Looks like it from this. Or is it all just empty words?
Looks like it from this. Or is it all just empty words?
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Another tourist attraction....?
Here you go then you fussy bastard.:p
I saw a cool t-shirt a while back saying "Visit Guantanamo Bay" in the style of those holiday shirts. Wish I'd bought it. It could be the new Alcatraz.
Hollow words to be sure though. Even if they did close it down, the prisoners would just be moved to some other, more secret, more illegal prison.
Wow.. Are they actually admitting that some people in Guantanamo are innocent?
But they are being sent back to their home countries, surely America aren't policing Saudi and Yemen now?
And besides, whatever happened to innocent before proven guilty?
They sell them in the excellent White House website
Eventually they will close it. However this will be a convenient diversion, for there will be many, many more concentration camps spread across the world of which we know nothing about, and in which the US government can continue to detain and torture illegally kidnapped men and boys in the best tradition of fascists, tyrants and dictators through modern history.
as for the closing of Guantanamo five years too late but better than never but i do that the red cross is allowed to monitor the jailed in their home country too and that the trials are not held in secret, but i live in an imaginery world anyway
Going back to Aladdin's offensive concentration camp jibe, do you know if the Red Cross were invited to visit detainees in Soviet concentration camps? Nazi concentration camps?
To little to late I reackon though - finally the international pressure has got the US bang to rights.
What will happen to the inmates?
They'll likley "disapeer" to Eastern Europe.
Tell that to the dozens of other released without charge ex-inmates from other nations who were teachers, humanitarian workers or even on holiday, and who were wrongfully banged up by the US.
Please stop believing the lies and the bullshit the US government spouts so willfully. For every 'dangerous' terrorist in Guantanamo 10 more inmates are nothing of the sort. If anyone is really a dangerous terrorist, then charge them. But don't keep them locked up illegally without any human rights or even access to a lawyer like fascists, dictators and nazis did.
that doesn't in any way make them dangerous or terrorists.
your showing a complete lack of knowledge or even basic understanding of the facts.
Showing his utter lack of consistency of principle once again whilst waving the flag of a country not even his own. The intellectually dishonest can always be counted on to miss the picture entirely. :thumb:
(That said, at least he does make the appropriate historic comparisons, even if he lacks the rationality to follow the train of thought to its legitimate conclusion).
The Republican elephant isn't really a flag of a country Clan...I know you hate your country but I'd have thought being American you'd know your own flag. For your benefit though:
from the BBC
Anyway I'm unashamedly 'americophile' in my beliefs, I have family and such in America and I plan to study, work and live in the States. I support America because it's the right thing to do Clan, I'm not American - hence I don't support America out of any patriotic feeling. Same goes for Israel. And you uh hate your country because of erm bizarre conspiracy theories...I wonder if your extreme views go down well back home.
it is truly fucking scary.
Like every other tv-indoctrinated, soundbite regurgitating know-nothing, Dis chants the mantras of "you hate your country" and "conspiracy theories" like a well programmed drone. His characteristic avoidance of the realisation that he is chanting for the very crimes against humanity and anti-democratic intent he claims to oppose is quite a pathetic site to behold, truly!
He'll fit in quite nicely with the self-absorbed, mentally and morally corrupt legions of ambient dead populating the US capitol, without doubt. Just another sucker for the brand America myth who will come to learn too late how hollow that myth is under the layers of glossy PR.
I love the way dis seems to be privy to information that no one else in the world is.
Why do you always state people 'dispaly a lack of understanding' when ever they don't agree with you.... it's time to change the record.
I call out those, like Dis, who simply regurgitate these same "official" PR soundbites as if they have any grasp on the realities of the issues. Always have done so and always will until those in question start to exercise a bit more discernment and investigative interest to look beyond official proclamations.
Given your record on such things Lukesh, you'd do well to do considerably more research and considerably less moaning.