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Is anyone else appalled that Japan and other nations have won a crucial vote to return to whaling again? Its so saddening watching their hunts on greenpeace's website, and just cannot see how they can be able to get away with doing such a barbaric thing. The problem is are we ever going to be able to stop them from doing such a thing. Financial methods are the only way to prevent this as this is the motivation for them to kill the whales in the first place, but can this ever be achieved?
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but P&D forum might be right for this thread.
Yep, P&D :yes:
Oh, and scientific research my arse.
"Oh yes, today we have researched that this whale is REALLY QUITE TASTY. However, we need to sample 874 more just to make sure that they all taste so good."
Some of the schools are having whale meat put on their menus, all the children are growing up thinking that whaling is right and normal. If they want to stop whaling they need to start teaching those kids that it's wrong.
Whales are an endangered species and none are specifically grown for killing like cows of chickens. They're just killed from their natural habitat.
whale meat is unfortunately in demand.
I would be more worried about some of the more 'common' fish e.g. Cod, Tuna, Haddock that are being massively overfished and people happily tuck into them without a thought........
Well yeah, there was another thread that touched on this the other day.
But just because we have grave concerns about overfishing in other parts of the world and with regard to different species doesn't mean that the cause of saving the whales is somehow less worthy of environmental concern and - of course - compassion.
It's not any more "ok" to hunt whales than it is any other animal, so yeah I suppose you could take the view that if one animal's good for it then they all are. But whales are endangered, and even the species that aren't currently endangered will more than likely be facing that fate in the very near future as a result of this vote. I think it's deeply irresponsible behaviour, at best.
and why do so many need to be caught for 'scientific research'?
However it should be said that there is an argument of whether those whales that are not endangered should be hunted or not. Well, some people might see it as hypocritical but I believe they should not be hunted even if they are not considered endangered. Of course this is just a question of beliefs- pretty much in the same way as whether it is right or not to eat dogs.
So if they were allowed to hunt the whales that were not considered endangered, and had a quota, who would enforce this quota and how?
Chinese Navy I say. They'd be good at enforcing it... and probably sinking a few Japanese vessels anyway, to keep 'em or their toes.
Why is it ok to kill some people but not others?
First we have to stop killing each other and then we can worry about the damn whales!!
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id love to eat a minke burger. yum!
I have my reservations about Iceland catching whales, but mainly because I believe we make more money off whale watching than we do from hunting them. For now, at least.
Oh, and not all whale species are endangered. It seems that most of the resistance to all whaling is just nations being sensationalist.
So whales deserve special treatment because they are 'intelligent' and nice to look at?
Hmmm........
Don't put words in people's mouths. She didn't say they deserved "special treatment", only better treatment than we currently afford them. It's not entirely surprising that a person would exposit the virtues of whales and the reasons not to hunt them in a thread about whale hunting.
Incidentally, nature has always had a way of balancing itself. It is only the human race that manages to fuck things up and unabalance things, and indeed cause the extinction of species.
Well you thought wrong. There are many different species of whales. Orcas happily munch on seals after brutally killing them. The minkwhale (which we hunt here) eats fish, I think it's the same fish that the Cod feeds off of.
That was my point. We made the mess and thus we are the ones responsible for fixing it by manually keeping the balance.
Strange understanding of nature there, most extinctions in the history of the earth have been caused by 'nature' not be humans. I am sure there are plenty if animlas wiped out by other animals...