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If one of the kids were to injure themselves, like...I was watching Airport the other day (shut up) and some guy almost cut his finger off, and they had to cut his wedding ring off because it was preventing blood reaching his finger. Necklaces can get caught on shit and strangle the person wearing it...etcetc.
This is, of course, also reasoning for not having blazers and ties, because of bunsen burners and all that electric tools and shit they have for D&T.
So when are they going to ban steps and paper then? :rolleyes:
With my thoughts about chastity aside, I've never really liked the prohibition of jewellery etc [and don't even like the policy of school uniforms] but I can see why it makes things a hell of a lot easier if it's all just banned, irrespective of its "meaning". I would definitely take the school's side, but the fact that it's a chastity ring and not an cubic zirconia from Warren James is pretty irrelevant to me.
With regard to the fact that it's a state school, I'm not sure how relevant that is with regard to chastity rings. I don't think they'd be allowed in a private or state church-run school, either. Though that said, your average necklace wasn't allowed in my secondary school but they were all for your wearing your crucifix -- and even gave us all one at the end of Year 9 to grant us "luck" or similar at the beginning of our GCSEs.
We only had that rule in PE & science.
Who says it's not fundamental for the Christian faith? I've no idea if it is or isn't but is it for non-Christians to judge what is and isn't important for Christians? I don't think so.
Why can't it be compared with Muslim girls wearing a headscarf? To some extent that is not a 'fundamental' of Islam, it's usually more of a cultural rather than religious thing...
A discreet ring, I really cannot see the problem tbh. I support school uniform but it's going too far when people are sent home for having a badge or a simple ring...
But I'm veering pretty far off the topic of chastity rings here. Or is the topic actually generic debate on school uniform policies? I'm not sure which part is actually being debated...
I took my confirmation, and I haven't been to church in years, and actually disagree with a lot (read: most) of what the Catholic church has to say. That's what happens when you get children, who haven't had time to form their own opinions and views upon the world, to make lifelong pledges. Chances are at some point in the future, they are going to say, "actually, this isn't what I believe at all" and so they are going to break those pledges.
Yes, but how do you know they haven't made an informed choice. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it wrong. They're fifteen years old, not five year olds.
But a ring is jewellery. If the girl was to wear he ring, then everyone else would do the same. at most schools (like mentioned earlier) have a no jewellery policy because of health & safety.
Except as Kentish says unless they're wandering around with bags over their heads and their ears bunged up with chalk they are getting other views from different sources as well.
Another sideline, surely wearing the ring at school is unnecessary, one would hope that she wasn't going to get any offers of action there!
I only ever wore mine to school when I had the rest of my jewellery on, was more of a going out thing.
My my how my life has changed. In answer to the lifelong pledge malarky I went and changed my mind on mine with some style but it did me good for a while.
Not by a long shot.
None of that features anywhere in the course at all.
Given that the original 'course' in America (of which this is an import, so it remains to be seen how different it is) peddled repeated lies about the realibility of contraception and other such nonsense, I fear what might be being 'taught' to pupils.
Incidentally, why do you think fervently religious people object to sex before marriage, if not because it is a 'sin' and against the will of God? And what do these people tell us will happen to those who sin and disobey the will of God?
What I am taught about sin, is that I shouldn't because it's not good for me, and that i shouldn't because it upsets God. Upsets God like cheating on my husband would upset my husband, in fact in the bible adultery is used as an analogy for sin.
Condoms are good but not perfect, this is undisputed even by the manufacturers.
Now I'm not necessarily saying the people behind this course are amongst them (I haven't been so I can't tell) but I hope you're not denying there are many preachers out there, especially in the US, who are targetting children and adults alike and claiming such people as ''fornicators'' and ''f*ggots'' will burn in hell (regardless of whether they're christians or not).
On the one hand, why are they not allowed to wear them? At my school in years 10 and 11 you were allowed to wear one discreet ring.
Rules are there for a reason but teachers are allowed to wear what they want, within reason. Schools can be very petty.
But then if you have a belief, why do you need to wear a ring to advertise it? I would have thought chastity was a personal vow, you don't need to tell the world about it.
This is hardly unique to Christianity.