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Are Paedos 'evil'?

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  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    turlough wrote:
    Why? Some people, through bad luck I guess are attracted to children, can't blame them for that, can't blame homosexuals fancying members of the same sex. However they have a moral obligation not to act their fantasies.
    Exactly what I was talking about: The same thing, much fewer words. :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Why? Some people, through bad luck I guess are attracted to children, can't blame them for that, can't blame homosexuals fancying members of the same sex. However they have a moral obligation not to act their fantasies.
    how the friggin fuck have people managed to bring being gay into the same eqaution as being a child sex attacker?
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    how the friggin fuck have people managed to bring being gay into the same eqaution as being a child sex attacker?
    Nobody is comparing being gay to being a child sex attacker.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nobody is comparing being gay to being a child sex attacker.
    well it's funny that the gay crowd keep getting a mention ...what about the hetros ...don't see them getting a mention.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how the friggin fuck have people managed to bring being gay into the same eqaution as being a child sex attacker?

    they just want to show that your sexual preferences or turn ons can not always be controlled or chosen. For them it would be like me saying to you "right I know you fancy women but that is wrong and evil and if you do it you will be sent to prison". As much as you could take that on board it would still be hard to resist temptation if thats what turns you on

    Edit : There you go, hetros have a mention now :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how the friggin fuck have people managed to bring being gay into the same eqaution as being a child sex attacker?

    Some people class being gay as morally wrong and disgusting and you've just changed the debate from paedophile to child sex attacker.

    I think it is even more important to try to understand these people rather than condemn them as evil or perverse. You arent going to stamp it out by cutting off their hands, bollocks, mouth or any other body part you can think of. Nor is locking up every single paedo going to work. It's hardly enforcable.
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    well it's funny that the gay crowd keep getting a mention ...what about the hetros ...don't see them getting a mention.
    Certainly. A hetero guy who kidnaps a woman to rape her is evil too.
    But "paedophile" does not mean "child sex attacker" any more than "hetero guy" means "rapist".
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But "paedophile" does not mean "child sex attacker" ".
    how doesn't it?
  • Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    how doesn't it?
    Because being sexually aroused by kids does not mean that you'll do anything about it! That much is obvious.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because being sexually aroused by kids does not mean that you'll do anything about it! That much is obvious.
    those who only think about it aren't realy a problem then are they. i often think about having securicor over but refrain.
    those who do act on their urges ...we do what with exactly?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Chop off their bollocks apparently.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    those who only think about it aren't realy a problem then are they. i often think about having securicor over but refrain.
    those who do act on their urges ...we do what with exactly?

    No one has ever excused their actions, we're just saying you can't help being who you are. Those that do act, prison for a long time. Castration? Well doesn't exactly work as an attacker will find other ways to abuse the child.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rachael wrote:
    Chop off their bollocks apparently.
    well come up with something that hasn't already been tried ...and mostly failed ...and i'm all ears.
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    well come up with something that hasn't already been tried ...and mostly failed ...and i'm all ears.

    12 Gauge.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well I welcome professionals to try and figure out the behaviour.

    Another question is..is it a medical condition or a sexuality like any other? Well not like any other but you get what I mean.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    12 Gauge.
    :eek:
    seriously ...some of you are verging on excusing these people.
    we aint realy talking about a few innocent thoughts here or the debate is pointless.
    there are some very nasty coniving bastards out there who prey on children ...do everything they can for opportunities to arise.
    they need dealing with.

    of course we can go down the road that persistent burglars just need a nice holiday and some rest and understanding and all will be well.
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    :eek:
    seriously ...some of you are verging on excusing these people.
    we aint realy talking about a few innocent thoughts here or the debate is pointless.
    there are some very nasty coniving bastards out there who prey on children ...do everything they can for opportunities to arise.
    they need dealing with.

    of course we can go down the road that persistent gurglars just need a nice holiday and some rest and understanding and all will be well.


    Thats why I say use a 12 gauge... it sure stops them reoffending!

    I dunno... let's import Sheriff John Bunnell and let him sort the situation out... I bet he has a few good ideas!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rachael wrote:
    Well I welcome professionals to try and figure out the behaviour.

    Another question is..is it a medical condition or a sexuality like any other? Well not like any other but you get what I mean.
    pros have been dealing with these problems for many many years ...it aint new.
    the sucsess rate is apparently minimal.
    so ...a bunk and a bowl of porridge for a long time seems all we're left with realy.
  • Jamie LJamie L Posts: 129 The Mix Convert
    Skive wrote:
    People who fantasize about sex with kids arn't evil they're just wrong'uns.
    Those who make those fantasies reality are!

    My take on it anyway.

    I generally don't like indulging in political debate... however I totally agree with Skive on this. Fantasy and reality are totally different. If someone makes that fantasy real which harms an underaged child (and in the case afore-mentioned about the 3 year old) then they should be strung up and shot.

    Also previously mentioned about the evilness of paedophilia and the reference to homosexuality is just not a comparison whatsoever. Sadly paedophiles have been thrown into the same "pool" as gay men for far too long. I disagree

    :mad:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jamie L wrote:
    Sadly paedophiles have been thrown into the same "pool" as gay men for far too long.
    :mad:
    yes ...it keeps popping its head up in here ...how wrong can a debate go!
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    yes ...it keeps popping its head up in here ...how wrong can a debate go!

    Quite. I fail to see how being gay in any way relates to paedophilia.
  • Jamie LJamie L Posts: 129 The Mix Convert
    turlough wrote:
    No one has ever excused their actions, we're just saying you can't help being who you are. Those that do act, prison for a long time. Castration? Well doesn't exactly work as an attacker will find other ways to abuse the child.

    And the UK justice system defines a long time as parole after 5 years. A joke.

    Castration is only ensuring inabilty to procreate. Total supervision and monitoring of action is what I think is required.

    I came to this country thinking justice was fair and reasonable. I was misled in that thought apparently. Any form of behaviour where it influences a minor in my opinion is wrong and unjust and should be dealt with with the full and absolute penalty available. If its unlawful sexual connection, rape, child pornography... its irrelevant. I think perpertrators should feel the effect of their actions.... fully and wholly. None of this "if you're good we'll let you go".

    My £0.02
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Jamie L wrote:
    And the UK justice system defines a long time as parole after 5 years. A joke.

    I came to this country thinking justice was fair and reasonable. I was misled in that thought apparently. Any form of behaviour where it influences a minor in my opinion is wrong and unjust and should be dealt with with the full and absolute penalty available. If its unlawful sexual connection, rape, child pornography... its irrelevant. I think perpertrators should feel the effect of their actions.... fully and wholly. None of this "if you're good we'll let you go".

    My £0.02

    True words.

    The UK justice system is probably currently misnamed. It's hardly just. They need to clean it off and start from scratch again tbh.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jamie L wrote:
    My £0.02
    :thumb: you've been here a while!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jamie L wrote:
    I came to this country thinking justice was fair and reasonable. I was misled in that thought apparently. Any form of behaviour where it influences a minor in my opinion is wrong and unjust and should be dealt with with the full and absolute penalty available. If its unlawful sexual connection, rape, child pornography... its irrelevant. I think perpertrators should feel the effect of their actions.... fully and wholly. None of this "if you're good we'll let you go".
    Music to my ears, I love it. I agree with every word. Shame our politicians don't.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But no one wants people in prison for long periods of time. Costs too much to the tax payer.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    But no one wants people in prison for long periods of time. Costs too much to the tax payer.
    nobody gives a fuck about the cost ...so long as they is keeping the right people in there.
  • Jamie LJamie L Posts: 129 The Mix Convert
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Music to my ears, I love it. I agree with every word. Shame our politicians don't.

    Politicians somehow think they understand the real world. I come from New Zealand where we have a so called democracy... it's been known that despite the shortcomings in population, a certain MP has held the country to ransom. This certain MP has also just become the ambassador of NZ (foreign affairs at least) and is renowned for his anti-immigration stance and diatribe.

    Back to the subject, I totally believe that any justice system of any country should be completely and totally impartial. Sadly Judges often have political influence here and abroad, and more oft than not have the goal of royal recognition via knightings or peerages or whatever. It seems quite corrupt.

    Jamie
  • Jamie LJamie L Posts: 129 The Mix Convert
    nobody gives a fuck about the cost ...so long as they is keeping the right people in there.

    :yippe: word!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    nobody gives a fuck about the cost ...so long as they is keeping the right people in there.

    Apparently the government and the prison heads themselves do...no wonder people are eligble for parole so early.
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