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the problem of child abuse - discuss
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these are just brief thoughts i would like to have settled in my mind. I ask of you to criticise, comment and/or reject dispute and resolve.
i think the scale of the problem with pedophilles is over reported.
i raise the point that children are generally pretty safe to play in streets etc. I'd expect each child to recognise the signs of the most basic instinct. where a child of 2006 cannot recognise this and steer clear of men like that when they see it then obviously that's awful. These are the same kids who are wathcing MTV with pimping, sexy women etc.
the answer to a simple problem is to educate kids on sex at a very young age. i would be QUITE CONCERTED to have my child educated. no longer can the euphamism 'don't accept sweets from strangers' suffice. I have no objection to my child learning about sex and relationships.
It's a sensitive subject, one that no-one likes to take a rational stance on because of the media pressure.
i think the scale of the problem with pedophilles is over reported.
i raise the point that children are generally pretty safe to play in streets etc. I'd expect each child to recognise the signs of the most basic instinct. where a child of 2006 cannot recognise this and steer clear of men like that when they see it then obviously that's awful. These are the same kids who are wathcing MTV with pimping, sexy women etc.
the answer to a simple problem is to educate kids on sex at a very young age. i would be QUITE CONCERTED to have my child educated. no longer can the euphamism 'don't accept sweets from strangers' suffice. I have no objection to my child learning about sex and relationships.
It's a sensitive subject, one that no-one likes to take a rational stance on because of the media pressure.
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The problem doesnt lie in the victim. Do you mean teaching children about the 'evil intentions' of a paedo? How is that going to reduce it?
My mum bought me a book when I was young. Forgotten what it's called but it basically re-enforces that you have the right to say no and that your body is your own and no one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to.
they need the chance to be children for fucks sake.
You can't teach babies stuff like that. Same with three year olds. As if they'd really understand what you mean anyway...
yer thats like saying it doesn't matter that the child goes through this abuse then. doesn't matter they don't understand.
I'm NOT saying that. I'm saying that if you were to teach a child of three about sex & abuse then they won't understand. Doubt they'd be that interested either.
he is exceptionaly bright but ...there is no way we would even consider teaching him about sex issues!
i pressume the thread starter knows very little if anything ...about children.
Exactly.
My thoughts exactly.
You want me to expand on what I've just said?
whenever it says discuss ...it sounds like an order ...it gets me all defensive.
How? So you'd rather that it wasn't reported and that will probably mean that more children are killed and raped?:rolleyes: And I think most parents would like to know about stuff like this so that they can protect & educate their children.
You mean, a five year old should be expected to know what is and what isn't dangerous?
And what age do you think would be appropriate for this educating?
He's actually right petal. Children are much safer than the media make out. You'd think young girls were taken every day after soham and that kid a couple of years before.
It's actually really quite rare, something like 10 a year.
The other problem is, a lot of children are too scared to speak up, in case they are not believed. Going on anecdotal evidence for a minute, a friend of mine was abused by a family member of hers. Her mother knew about this for years, and did nothing. When it eventually did come out to the rest of the family, including numerous action against her family member, the remaining family ostracised her. She is now only speaking on terms with a few of them, and was treated as the purpetrator of the actions rather than the survivor.
Some studies have also shown that many abusers were abused children themselves (one reported incidences as high as 70%) but I don't have the statistics to hand.
So cycle breaking, regaining trust, etc is going to take years to happen, even over generations, and won't be helped with a knee-jerk reaction to appease the tabloids.
i'd expect anyone who can articulate arguments as well as you do sir to have bright children. so how do you cope with the percieved threat of a pedophille on every corner.