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Do you then accept that abortion is a viable option for some people? I believe it should be legal and as safe as possible. I'm active because some want to take that choice away. My mum's friend was forced to have abortions due to the one child policy back in China a long time ago. I'm against this because it takes away people's choices, and I'd be against people trying to take away your choice if you wanted to carry a pregnancy to term. It's possible to be personally pro-life and politically pro-choice.
Does that make sense?
A hell of a lot of people are.
Cleft palate can have serious medical consequences however, my best friend was born with one (and was undetected for 3 days) and needed a lot of surgery etc which required her mother's whole time/effort etc as GWST pointed out in her mum's experiences with her sister.
In order to establish negligence, one needs to prove there was a duty of care, that duty of care was breeched, and harm was caused by that breech. I think Kenish would probably that question better as I'm not sure if it falls within the realm of negligence.
Are you having a laugh? Ok example say there was a couple who were in their early 20's and were students or high flying business types and the contraception doesnt work...are they supposed to give up their their lives just because something was an accident?
You cant talk about "if it was me" either. You are not a women, you will never have to go through the trouble of making that decision.
thanks for the info :thumb:
Having a child is still a very painful and emotional experience though. Why should someone have to suffer it because its an accident when it can be prevented when the thing is a few cells?
It's not that 'simple'. To give up an infant for adoption, you have to go through a pregnancy and give birth. Despite what some people may think, it's not 'just 9 months'. Ask anyone who has carried a pregnancy to term and given birth. I was very much a wanted pregnancy, but my mum doesn't romanticise the fact that it wasn't always a case of cute kittens and sweeties.
And quite frankly, I'm insulted that you think the process of adoption is 'simple' for all parties involved. I have a friend who gave up her baby for adoption, and I have friends who have adopted. It's emotional, uncertain and at times, very frustrating - and that's the people who want to do it, not the ones who would be forced into it by being forced to gestate. It's not like swapping a sweater, so show birth mothers, the children and their parents some respect, it's not always the panacea it's made out to be.
The fact people are having abortions for minor defects in itself is completely immoral, and disgusting.
I was lucky to see my first scan when my son was just 3mm long in total! And even from seeing that spec, I loved him and would of done anything for him. the 20 week scan was the most moving then I've ever experienced apart from the birth itself !
It's sick!
Agreed. There are a few reasons why I'd have an abortion and one of them isn't minor defects.
You obviously don't have a clue, do you? :rolleyes:
You're not though are you? You're a gay adolescent male. And there's the rub...
What relevance is his sexuality?
Do you want me to draw a diagram?
And exactly what relevance does his sexuality have on this discussion?
I dont have a clue what you're going on about either. Perhaps explain something for once.
Although you may be correct in saying that abortion isn't going to have the same perspective for a man, your arguement that because someone is a gay man (as opposed to you, who as a straight man if perfectly okay to join in this debate) they are not allowed to voice their opinions is a bit of a fucking disgrace.
If you feel sexuality is directly revelant here then explain why, because otherwise move the fuck on.
Well, this thread is a bit of a hornet's nest, I can see blagsta's point about a male (any male, regardless of sexuality) moralising about when women are and are/should be allowed to have an abortion. I'd say it's pretty easy to have such blanket, righteous views when it's not a situation you will ever, ever be in.
But, I digress. Of course it's not a nice, fluffly thought that there are women who abort their pregnancy because of a relatively minor defect, but to be honest I would support the woman's decision to do what is right for her and never judge in that position. Of course there are people who will think that's a depraved, disgusting attitude to "human" "life", but I'm a depraved, disgusting kind of person