Need help r.e BENZOS!!!

Former Member · May 2006

Right I'll start from the beginning.

On at least 10-15 5mg (sometimes up to like 150mg) temazys for about a month and a half. Withdrawals almost cold turkey... 2 weeks of shit. anxious, thinking I was a bit mad, depressed socially paranoid etc.

Then just as I get over that I started the same pattern again I was withdrawing like never before after just 2 days without any, and I had dreams that would make me cry!! Then I got hold of 200 valiums a few days ago, I've been having them as and when I feel I need them and sometimes when I'm having drinks just for the hell of it coz I have to drink dangerous amounts to get drunk. But sometimes I'll take quite a few just for buzz.

Thing is though I am absolutely SHITTING MYSELF knowing that I'm gonna run out and these withdrawals are gonna be like never before, I had bad twitches last time this time I'm more worried about seizures, I'm going to try and taper but if it becomes too much I'm going to go to my docter. It's something I really don't want to do because I promised him I wouldn't take anything illegally after coming off my dihydrocodeine prescription/addiction.

I don't know what he'll say or do. And I don't know what to say or do but it looks like I'm gonna have to go to doctors and explain.

I'm in a really bad situation. What will the doctor likely say? And I know he'll probably prescribe me something, but what's he gonna prescribe me. I've been before and told him I'd been taking 70mg Valium everyday for 3 weeks and he didn't give me anything! This time it's serious and I'm really really scared about whats coming please give me some advice.

CALLING ROLLY,BONG AND THE REST!

Former Member · May 2006

If you don't want to see your GP, go and see your local drug service. Although you will probably need a benzo scrip to detox.

Former Member · May 2006

Where will I find my local drug service? Obviously local but what is a local drug service rather? and how do i find them?

Former Member · May 2006

Whereabouts are you in the country?

Former Member · May 2006

Hull, East Yorks

Former Member · May 2006

Have a look on this database
http://drugscope.soutron.com/helpfinder.asp

Former Member · May 2006

Nothing found on there, I've found a place not too far from me that deals with addiction. Don't know how much they can really help me though?

Former Member · May 2006

You could try Hull's statutory drug service

Drugs and alcohol

Reducing the problem of drug addiction and alcohol, and the impact of drugs on health and well-being in Hull is one of the city's four health priorities.

Hull City Council has a Central Addiction Team that carries out specialist assessments with people experiencing drug/alcohol problems. The team also works with the families and carers of the addicts.

We can provide individual advice and support, and we can help people get access to residential rehabilitation.

The Central Addiction Team plays a key role in the development of Hull’s Drug Strategy, and supports other local awareness-raising initiatives.

More information

For more information on how we can help, or if you would like to get help for yourself or someone you know, contact us:

by phone: (01482) 300300

http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,107870&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Former Member · May 2006

Thanks I'll give it a look

Former Member · May 2006

The most important thing to remember is that if you have been taking benzo's daily for more than a month its really not a good idea to try and withdraw cold turkey. Benzo addiction isnt anything to fuck around with.

Also, you need realise what you are doing, so do what you can to reduce the harm you are doing at the moment, dont drink alcohol with them and try to reduce what you are using.

Blagsta is right, the best people to talk to about this may well be your local drug service rather than your GP.

Former Member · May 2006

I've cut down to about 20mg a day but I'm running out of them fast. Only about 20 left so I'll keep tapering and do it myself. Can't be arsed with outside help, don't think I need it to be honest. I'v hardly touched them this weekend and I've done 2 all nighters a shitload of pills,coke,beer etc not even had a comedown at all as yet. Everyone else was battered the next day off a couple of the new pentagram pills that have come about, best I've had ever tripping out real bad, absolutely spannered.

I'll just keep the dosages really low and keep cutting down and try not to think about them, I'll be fine. I got myself in this mess I can get myself out of it. :thumb:

Jaded · May 2006

I know I have said it before Uprising, but your drug usage is really concerning, please be careful.

Former Member · May 2006

Uprising wrote:

I've cut down to about 20mg a day but I'm running out of them fast. Only about 20 left so I'll keep tapering and do it myself. Can't be arsed with outside help, don't think I need it to be honest. I'v hardly touched them this weekend and I've done 2 all nighters a shitload of pills,coke,beer etc not even had a comedown at all as yet. Everyone else was battered the next day off a couple of the new pentagram pills that have come about, best I've had ever tripping out real bad, absolutely spannered.

I'll just keep the dosages really low and keep cutting down and try not to think about them, I'll be fine. I got myself in this mess I can get myself out of it. :thumb:

Dont swap abuse of one drug for abuse of a set of drugs.

Former Member · May 2006

even if you want to do this alone or by your own methods at least check in with your GP regularly so that your general state of health can be monitored.

Former Member · May 2006

Thanks for your conern ladyjade, martin... i will if i really start to feel like im struggling.

benzo addiction is some serious shit!! never gonna misuse them again I've learnt my lesson this time, believe!

Former Member · May 2006

Update:

Didn't take any from friday until today, woke up shaking so bad i couldn't roll a cig! Took 1 and I feel a little better, my head felt like it was gonna pop. Only got 9 left though and I don't really think it's enough to see me through! and I haven't got the money to get any more. I think my only option now is my GP. Any advice anyone because I'm feeling like utter shit and I'm worried about seizures. :shocking:

Jaded · May 2006

I think you answered your own question, please go and see your GP! At the very least call NHS Direct. As has been said previously, this is not something you should be doing on your own.

Former Member · May 2006

If you are worried about seizures, i have reproduced a bit on dealing with them, you might wanna get some of the people you are regularly around to take note of this just in case

if one of your mates goes down with a seizure, it will be random firing of neurons in the brain, which means movements and muscle contractions can be extremely random, and fucking strong so watch out.

Some quick does and don'ts:

*DONT stick a spoon or anything else in their mouth, that an old wives tale and complete bollocks. You could choke them or lose your fingers very easily.
*DONT hold them down, even if they are thrashing around. Muscle contractions that occur in seizures are very strong, so if you hold them down you could hurt yourself, but also you are putting resistance up against an abnormally stong muscle movement and they could tear or injure things very easily.

*DO PROTECT THE HEAD! If they are banging it around, dont hold it down but try and gt some padding around it, take off your shirt or coat, UV vest whatever just something to give the head some protection. Remember though try not to restrain.
*DO give them space, collect personal belongings and wait for it to stop but DONT LET ANYONE pick them up or try to move them until it stops UNLESS you have reason to believe that their airway is blocked or that their heart is in danger.

A seizure takes loads of energy out of people, so they will probably feel like they've gone 10 rounds with Tyson. They'll need lots of rest and most likely will want to sleep. Rest and gentley getting isotonic drinks or water into them is the best way to go.

Get to your GP as soon as possible though mate, yours is a matter of priority i would say.

Former Member · May 2006

THANKS, I will have to then so it looks like. I'll go tomorrow I reckon.
I'm scared shitless and I'm nervous about telling the doc coz I promised him I wouldn't do anymore drugs illegally and I feel real bad which makes everything worse. :nervous:

Former Member · May 2006

Uprising wrote:

THANKS, I will have to then so it looks like. I'll go tomorrow I reckon.
I'm scared shitless and I'm nervous about telling the doc coz I promised him I wouldn't do anymore drugs illegally and I feel real bad which makes everything worse. :nervous:

Well he isnt there to judge you mate, hopfully he will just give you his best advice.

Good luck mate. :thumb:

Former Member · May 2006

Uprising wrote:

THANKS, I will have to then so it looks like. I'll go tomorrow I reckon.
I'm scared shitless and I'm nervous about telling the doc coz I promised him I wouldn't do anymore drugs illegally and I feel real bad which makes everything worse. :nervous:

I'm sure he's seen it all before mate, probably come across situations 10 times worse. Don't worry about it, and just tell him the truth.

All the best.

Former Member · May 2006

Just got back with a 30mg a day script for a week, not quite what I was expecting but at least I won't be in withdrawals. Got to go back in a week and discuss it more with my usual doctor (who is on holiday at the moment).
I'm going to try and take half pills instead of the full 10mg anyway and see how I go on that. I really want off them. I don't find them mentally addicting in the slightest anymore. I'm changing to a pretty much drug free life and this is the beginning... let's see where I go. I'll keep posting updates on here and still participate in the forums though!

And I don't mean totally drug-free I mean only pills at raves and coke on the odd occaision and benzos can be life savers on comedowns. BUT some serious moderation is needed in my use and I've learnt the hard way, multiple times. And for those of you that don't know; I'm only 17, suprised? :wave:

Former Member · May 2006

Spreading it out and only taking half tablets will help, perhaps 4 half tablets during the day then 10mg at bed time.

And of course you know full well not to drink alcohol with them.

Former Member · May 2006

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I've just taken 10mg and I feel about "normal" this is probably because the ones I got illicitly were from Thailand so quality probably wasn't as good. At least this way it can be controlled and monitored til I'm off but my regular GP won't be too happy when he gets back from his holiday I don't reckon!

I also read my report card which said that I was suspected as a drug seeker seeking benzos from a psych, when I had REAL anxiety and did not ask for benzos in particular at all. He tried giving me Carbemazepine thinking I was fucking bipolar which I rejected after taking just one tablet because I had panic attacks and pins+needles the next day. I am now anxiety free though, just need to get off the frickin benzos. Reading that pissed me off though because when I needed help with anxiety I never got it, and I probably wouldn't have ended up were I am now. Just wish they would listen and believe what I'm saying a bit more. Now my medical records say that I'm a drug misuser and have tried seeking drugs through a psych and GP. Takes the piss... if I didn't have anxiety I wouldn't want it on my records. If I didn't have anxiety I wouldn't ask for help for it. It's the nobhead psychiatrist who thought I was biploar thought this because I refused to take medication for a condition I didn't think I had.

NHS and mainstream psychiatry is bullshit, I'll never trust another doctor again. And thanks to a report full of crap, they will never trust me either... which could cause me problems in later life if I ever need anything slightly narcotic prescribing. :banghead:

Go in with anxiety-come out misdiagnosed bipolar and labeled a drug seeker and abuser. Great eh? I only told them I'd TRIED ecstacy and cannabis and self-medicated with diazepam due to the fact that I was not getting anywhere or anything from my GP for a genuine condition. :rolleyes:

Former Member · May 2006

Uprising wrote:

NHS and mainstream psychiatry is bullshit, I'll never trust another doctor again. And thanks to a report full of crap, they will never trust me either... which could cause me problems in later life if I ever need anything slightly narcotic prescribing. :banghead:

The problem is, especially with GP's, is that they have to be experts in everything so they do make mistakes.

If you dont like what is on your record then discuss it with your doctor when he gets back, lay out the whole history for him and ask for it to be changed.

Former Member · May 2006

benzos

have a look at my posting called message from grandad or something. Benzo addiction is a f'ing nightmare and despite your concerns you're not in too deep yet.

Try looking at www.benzos.org which is very sanctimonious but is based on the Ashton withdrawal method. So if you're going to taper off it gives you charts and all sorts. Fact you've been taking diazepam is actually good as stays in your body longest so least likely to get seizures etc.

Re your doc, I agree - get a look at your records and change the tw**at if necessary. My doc is a senile old moron who said I needed more sun when i told him I was taking cocktail equivalent to more than 250mg val per day. In fact to keep their lucrative licences they have to keep up to date and the prevalence of benzo addiction and the slow withdrawal method was told to all of them in 2002. Don't be ashamed of it just stop it now.

Bye!

Former Member · June 2006

Hi, i totaly understand wot u r saying, as i waz addicted 2 benzos 4 a very long time. At least u hav realized that u hav a problem (that is the first step 2 recovery!) U have 2 seek help, i know it is hard as i had a really shit time and u dont wanna go through that. T here is lots of help out there! Why do u think u need them? Do u need, or just enjoy them?

Former Member · June 2006

Uprising wrote:

Update:

Didn't take any from friday until today, woke up shaking so bad i couldn't roll a cig! Took 1 and I feel a little better, my head felt like it was gonna pop. Only got 9 left though and I don't really think it's enough to see me through! and I haven't got the money to get any more. I think my only option now is my GP. Any advice anyone because I'm feeling like utter shit and I'm worried about seizures. :shocking:

U SHUD GO 2 UR DOCTOR AS THEY WILL HELP. IF IT HELPS U ANY I HAV JUST DETOXED 4RM 30mg OF DIAZEPAM N IT WAZ HARD AS HELL BUT I WILL TALK N HELP U EVERYDAY IF U NEED ME. Kay

Former Member · June 2006

kayz wrote:

U SHUD GO 2 UR DOCTOR AS THEY WILL HELP. IF IT HELPS U ANY I HAV JUST DETOXED 4RM 30mg OF DIAZEPAM N IT WAZ HARD AS HELL BUT I WILL TALK N HELP U EVERYDAY IF U NEED ME. Kay

Its nice that you are offering help, but can you write it properly next time.

Former Member · June 2006

Where r u 4rm coz if u let me no i will let u know about help in ur area

Former Member · June 2006

kayz wrote:

Where r u 4rm coz if u let me no i will let u know about help in ur area

I'm not the one with the problem, I was just saying it was nice of you to offer.

P.S Please write things properly, it makes it a lot easier for us to read.

P.P.S How much harder is 'from' to write than '4rm'?

Need help r.e BENZOS!!!

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