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Taliban pull out of Kabul?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Supposedly the Taliban has retreated its forces south, and out of Kabul, and the Northern Alliance is moving in. I don't know how reliable this is, but what will it mean for the 'war' and government in the country? Are the northern alliance being put in charge, so to speak?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I sincerely hope not, there are reports of them already having killed hundreds in Mazar I Sharif - after the Taliban had left.

    The lack of Taliban resistance would seem to suggest they know that they can't win a traditional war and are going to concentrate on guerrilla warfare from the mountains.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its 100% true..The journalists were already there when I woke up this morning. Apparently the Taliban just upped and buggered off without a fight. Left their equipment, guns and all.

    The Northern alliance leadership said they would halt outside the city and most of them have. Theres a small number of alliance troops that went into the city, apparently to make sure it was clear from Taliban troops.

    I would be very worried if they hadnt stopped outside the City. Al is right about the revenge killings . General Dostum of the alliance has a very dark history and I wouldnt want to see him in the city. I dont think that the NA will be allowed to play too large a part in the coming government..If they get into Kabul in large numbers then we might have a problem.

    So much for the hardcore dedication and resiliance of the Taliban. Weve been told they would fight to the death and slaughter anything they came across...Thousands of them are changing sides, many are fleeing to Kandahar having shaved their beards to avoid ID as Taliban troops. Theres even reports of a large Taliban group having changed sides and taken over part of the Kandahar airport. They are inviting the US to land there and help them out. How the mighty have fallen, fleeing to the hills like animals.

    BBC website is also reporting unconfirmed rumours that the Taliban have done a bit of ethnic cleansing themselves.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    US factories are producing small high consumption gasoline engines on bar fram/skid shipping pallets for transport by helicopter...to be used to fill the mountain caves with carbonmonoxide gas...retreating to the mountains to caves just isn't such a great idea...especially with thermal imaging to locake hot spots on the mountain for finding troops and equipment.

    Diesel

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Although i do fear of the people of Kabul, i can't help thinking the american bombings are now some what justified. I say this having watched the local flood onto the streets in celebration, men shaving there beards, women actually showing there faces, unfortunatly there may be attrocities commited by the northern alliance, but surely now the people are free of a taliban regime which caused so much suffering and unhappiness is a positive result. It is now important the un send in peace keepers and a political deligate sort out a new fair government with representatives from all sides, taliban and na included
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ebenEzer bad:
    i can't help thinking the american bombings are now some what justified.

    You what? The actions are justified because of their effects? That's not exactly conventional reasoning, is it? I mean, that's not even "the ends justify the means." That is just saying, "Well, it worked, so it was right." Revisionist, yes?




    You're damn right we need a rational code of morality and ethics. But not much progress can be made in that direction while we've still got a majority ranting about gods, devils, souls, and absolute morality, and using an ancient book written by ignorant nomads as a guide.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    EB', Yep!

    I just read a wonderful AP-wire story of Kabuls residents actually having the Audacity to dig-up their long-buried TV's and VCR's.

    Right on!

    Things'r goin' to get "INTERESTIN'" now!

    Tali's are runnin' for Kandahar and the SAS and "Green beanie's" are hittin' the airport there as I type this.

    My two-bits are on Pakistan goin' ape in the next few weeks and THEN We'll see what is what.

    Interstin' times We live in!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MacKenZie:
    That is just saying, "Well, it worked, so it was right."


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    It bloody worked, would just leaving it all well alone of been better ? there was a cost of human lives, which isn't ideal - but was worth it. SO many more will now be saved as a result of those bombings, and they'll have a much better quality of life with it. Its no good looking at it as a rainbow filled world where evrything is perfect, we had a job to do and we did, and it worked without huge human losses, especially on our side - thats all the justification i need.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hmmm...

    so what are the peaceniks saying to all this then? the "liberated" afghans, suddenly enjoying life, partying agian - what's their response?

    If there's anything more important than my ego around here, i want it caught and shot now
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Funnily enough Turtle, they are keeping themselves rather quiet <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They'll be back, fear not - with some more nonsense to whinge about - i mean would we be justified to kill ossie b? that would involve actually killing him first - god forbid
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ...off with his head. I must satisfy my blood-lust.

    "Excellent!" <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/Gif/burns.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Bring back the Taliban! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;
    I odn't know if ya consider me a... uh, 'peacenik'? But I think that its a step in the right direction. However the next step should be thought about carefully, incase there happens to be a small cliff to fall off right ahead.
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