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World Class Heroin Dealers In New Texas

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
World Class Heroin Dealers In New Texas
World class heroin dealers in New Texas have turned an entire country into the kind of neighborhood we find in every large city...buildings burnt out, deterorating, full of bullet holes, broken or missing windows and doors, burnt out vehicles abandoned on the street...and dangerous people making it worth your life to venture thrugh without the right protection or sign. And an ongoing crime wave to support it...just that way.

The drug dealers of islam hijacked a whole country...admittedly, it wasn't much to start with but the place was interesting and might have made a good vacation destination...might!

I know that I'm not the only one to notice these similarities...gang violence to control a drug turf isn't new...the results appear to always be the same whether it is the central district of Seattle or Kabul.

In the news here a few days ago were scenes of several tons of refined heroin supposedly being intercepted by Pakistani troops and coming out of New Texas...!

Clearly, this worldwide contagion must be dealt with or we will all be redused to islamic terror or hopeless addiction to poppy products...other than bakery products.

Clearly tons of money goes into these neighborhoods/countries but does not stay there...if it did it wouldn't make a diference because junkies don't build, they just consume and destroy.

Now, I have a question...and don't have the answer. Is there a plant virus/disease/insect, etc., that attacks the poppy plant exclusively and which can be easily sprayed or otherwise distributed to an area to wipe out poppy production. And do any of US politicians have the resolve to emplement a program that destroys heroin at its sources?

Drug dealers without a product are a pitiful group...they will reach for something else but if they are only able to resort to thuggery the whole bunch is easily controles...put out of business...and perhape there will be hope in New Texas and places like the inner cities of US.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There will be a chemical of some description that would destroy poppy plants, but i can't see that would solve the problem. As heroin is very very addictive there will always be a very large demand and as long as there is demand there will be supply ! You can't cover the whole planet in chemicals, and the drugs industry is now so powerful a few destroyed fields would be laughed at. The billions and billions shipped around would mean any attempts would be complete failures. The only real way the drug problem will ever be solved is to look at legalising them, of course this has negative consequences for those who decide to indulge, but the crime behind drugs would be wiped out.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by eb:
    <STRONG>There will be a chemical of some description that would destroy poppy plants, but i can't see that would solve the problem. As heroin is very very addictive there will always be a very large demand and as long as there is demand there will be supply ! You can't cover the whole planet in chemicals, and the drugs industry is now so powerful a few destroyed fields would be laughed at. The billions and billions shipped around would mean any attempts would be complete failures. The only real way the drug problem will ever be solved is to look at legalising them, of course this has negative consequences for those who decide to indulge, but the crime behind drugs would be wiped out.</STRONG>


    eb, I actually agree with what you say...wouldn't hurt to find a parasite that destroys poppy though.

    US is preparing a vacination that destroys the ability of marijuana, cocain, heroin, etc., to get you high...no matter how much you use. This may help.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
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    US is preparing a vacination that destroys the ability of marijuana, cocain, heroin, etc., to get you high...no matter how much you use. This may help.

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    Only if they force people to take it and i can't see that going down to well (excuse the pun). Even if they manage it, people will continue in there quest to find ways of getting high, perhaps putting themselves and others at further risk in doing so ? I really believe decriminlisation could be the way forward for a variety of reasons such as

    1) elimination of the black market and criminal activity
    2)control of content, meaning drugs are safe to use
    3)massive tax revenue gain for governments to spend on health education etc....
    4)easy monitoring of extent of problem and abusers
    5)easy to give advice and educate users on dangers
    6)why not ! is it not up to the individual with reason 1 & 2 a reality ?

    One thing is for sure it ain't working the way it is
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I kinda doubt that they will make a vaccine that will eliminate the effects of such drugs, and if they did I doubt they would be able to implement it. By making it illegal not to? That obviously wouldn't work. By givivng it to children? I don't think all the parents would be happy...

    Also, I think there would be such a huge public outcry that it would bring a very heavy blow to any governemnt.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the US the courts would givew a choise; take the shot or stay in jail.

    You have a lot of dedicated addicts in US...none of whom are worth a fart in a windstorm when it comes to demonstrating about anything.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>In the US the courts would givew a choise; take the shot or stay in jail.

    You have a lot of dedicated addicts in US...none of whom are worth a fart in a windstorm when it comes to demonstrating about anything.
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    I think when it comes to drug culture... you're argument sounds remarkably like bleating.... <IMG alt="image" SRC="tongue.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mindless, I deal with the 'drug culture' on a daily basis...includig having to call the fire department when they od and are found dead in a room....

    Mindless noise makers...maybe, intelligent demonstrations...not so far. "I just wanna get stoned man" is more to the point.

    Perhaps it is different in the ol pirate kingdom...of course, you really don't have much to do over there so maybe you are on to something I've missed here.

    Innoculating junkies would be easier than you could imagine here...they only think about geting out and geting a fix when in jail and all of them have convinced themselves that anything that furthers that objective will do just fine.

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In England they (well some of the more liberal poloticians at least) considering having shooting galleries, I think they were called, where heroin addicts could go and legally get a hit. This would be to ensure that it is safe, and so the government would have a better idea of how wide spread the problem is, as well as been a start to getting them off the drug.

    A lot of heroin addicts are going to end up dead before they end up in prison, this plan could save lives.

    Also, addicts literally need the hit. Without it their bodies get some pretty violent withdrawel symptons. So to deny the hit completely could be very dangerous.

    As for innoculating them against cannabis effects, that seems like a waste of money. It is looking like it will be effectivly decriminalised here in Britain, where there is nothing else to do apart from take drugs, according to you. This is after a pilot scheme in parts of London which police said have helped reduce cannabis-realted crime.

    Maybe its not the fact that there is nothing else to do, maybe its the fact that here we don't like to be stopped doing something which is harmless.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mindless, I'll take a dope smoker to an alcoholic any day...harmless...well, I don't know. Dope smokers I have known seem to want to eat you out of house and home...suffer from severe munchie withdrawals.

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They already have something like that for alcoholics in the U.S. You are given the choice of taking a pill once a day or going to jail. If you take the pill it effectively blocks an enzyme that breaks down alcohol in your blood and so if you drink your get stuck with a raging hangover everytime. Or something like that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by USC Alex:
    <STRONG>They already have something like that for alcoholics in the U.S. You are given the choice of taking a pill once a day or going to jail. If you take the pill it effectively blocks an enzyme that breaks down alcohol in your blood and so if you drink your get stuck with a raging hangover everytime. Or something like that.</STRONG>
    Yep, George Best is taking it. If he has another drink, he'll die.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>Mindless, I'll take a dope smoker to an alcoholic any day...harmless...well, I don't know. Dope smokers I have known seem to want to eat you out of house and home...suffer from severe munchie withdrawals.

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    Lol, very true. But think of the good they do for the economy. All those hobnobs and rizla sold!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Uh....what are hobnobs and rizlas? I know it's usually a 'language' thing but food is more cultural.

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>Uh....what are hobnobs and rizlas? I know it's usually a 'language' thing but food is more cultural.

    Diesel

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    Hobnobs are biscuits
    Rizlas are cigarette/spliff papers
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    OK, I've got it!

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's a shame really Diesel, as you live in prime cannabis growing land. Really should take a leaf out of our book and take advantage of that. <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you take the pill it effectively blocks an enzyme that breaks down alcohol in your blood and so if you drink your get stuck with a raging hangover everytime. Or something like that.

    Its called Ant-abuse, I was offered it when I was in Rehab in 2001, basically what it is like it reacts inside your body to any alcohol drunk and makes you violently ill and I mean VIOLENTLY... usually what happens is that people test this theory and after being ill once they stop cause they know it works...

    It can get quite dangerous, it has been known to put people in hospital cause of the seriousness after-effects should you risk drinking...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Snow White...I know what grows here...and have lived in many places where it was true...Hawaii...SEA...etc.

    Frankly, I'm just high on life...I know, sounds korney! But living in a university neighborhood and seeing on a daily basis the effects of all manner of drugs on people who would otherwise be productive members of society...I am left without curiosity for any of it.

    Give me a dope smoker to an aklie any day of the week though. (ever notice how you never see any senior citizen heroin addicts?)

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was just messing with ya...

    I only found out last week that BC's #1 cash crop is cannabis, it's not actually all that prevalent (except downtown late at night, but you'll get that in any reasonable sized city)

    Forgive my stupidity, but what university's in Seattle?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Snow White:
    <STRONG>I was just messing with ya...

    I only found out last week that BC's #1 cash crop is cannabis, it's not actually all that prevalent (except downtown late at night, but you'll get that in any reasonable sized city)

    Forgive my stupidity, but what university's in Seattle?</STRONG>


    You're gonna love this answer: University Of Washington!

    US border has been pretty porus but things are tightening up everywhere as we go onto wartime footing. I'll post an article about current activities as a separate thread so this subject matter won't become another 'g' thread.


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