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British Muslims Back Bin Laden: Poll
Osama bin Laden commands significant support among British Muslims for his terrorist war against America, an opinion poll suggests.
A newspaper survey found that 40% of 1,170 Muslims asked believed bin Laden had cause to wage war against the US.
It also found 11% of those interviewed thought there was some justification for the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.
Bin Laden 'justified'
And 40% thought that British Muslims who went to fight with the Taliban were right to do so, while the overwhelming majority - 96% - said the US bombing campaign should stop.
Around 73% said Tony Blair was wrong to back the US and 61% said they did not believe efforts to capture or kill bin Laden were justified.
Asked whether it was more important to be British or Muslim, 68% chose their faith and 14% their nationality.
Islam
The figures are likely to concern ministers who have repeatedly insisted that the US and its allies are not waging war on Islam.
The Sunday Times interviewed 1,170 Muslims at random in cities across Britain, including London, Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford and Manchester.
Nice to see our so-called British Muslims taking pride in there country, dirty scumbags
I'll die before I surrender.
Osama bin Laden commands significant support among British Muslims for his terrorist war against America, an opinion poll suggests.
A newspaper survey found that 40% of 1,170 Muslims asked believed bin Laden had cause to wage war against the US.
It also found 11% of those interviewed thought there was some justification for the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.
Bin Laden 'justified'
And 40% thought that British Muslims who went to fight with the Taliban were right to do so, while the overwhelming majority - 96% - said the US bombing campaign should stop.
Around 73% said Tony Blair was wrong to back the US and 61% said they did not believe efforts to capture or kill bin Laden were justified.
Asked whether it was more important to be British or Muslim, 68% chose their faith and 14% their nationality.
Islam
The figures are likely to concern ministers who have repeatedly insisted that the US and its allies are not waging war on Islam.
The Sunday Times interviewed 1,170 Muslims at random in cities across Britain, including London, Birmingham, Leicester, Bradford and Manchester.
Nice to see our so-called British Muslims taking pride in there country, dirty scumbags
I'll die before I surrender.
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As for pride in your country, I don't take pride in being British. We believe that society in the Middle East is not morally or ethically sound...but look at Western society. A lot of these people live in poverty and only have their faith to grasp, one reason why there's such an unequal distribution of wealth around the globe is because Western society takes advantage of poorer countries.
I'm not justifying anything that Bin Laden has done, I'm just pointing out that western society is not as morally sound as we think we are.
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Thats the most hilarious thing ive read all week..Thanks Liberty, your comment has cheered me up <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">
I guess Hitler wasnt bad and just had different morals...Dr Mengele, when he was dissecting those living children, he wasnt a bad person, he just had different morals. The man in south africa who raped a 9 month old baby recently wasnt a bad man, just had different morals.
Another reason is that all of these poorer countries have corrupt government systems which pocket all money the country receives and not a single penny of it gets to the people. You say that western nations take advantage of poorer countries, can you explain that further for me.
I do, im immensely proud I live in one of the most tolerant, free, prosperous, generous and downright nice countries on earth.
Balddog, you are making a lot of very good points. But they are only good in my opinion because I was brought up in a similar way to you, and I'm sure we share similar views on what is right and what is wrong (like shagging 9 month old babies) because of this.
Put youself in the position of an Afghanistani child brought up by a mother whose face you couldn't ever see and a father who thinks it's fine to fly a plane into a building. We just can't comprehend their way of thinking.
They use Islam as an excuse to kill innocent people. I think we all agree that that is wrong. If so, why do we want to do exactly the same by bombing them?
Im sorry Kentish but there are some things that are universally evil. I dont care how someone was brought up, these are basic human feelings..Hell read the Koran..The stuff it says is pretty darned close to the bible..The morality stuff I mean.
What you are saying is just a giant copout..Youre saying that because they were brought up differently from us their behaviour and actions are justified. Excuse my french but thats bollocks.
I dont know how many times im gonna need to say this but the objective of the bombing in afghanistan is not to kill as many women and children as possible. Thats the thing we are trying to avoid as much as possible.
Answer this question for me..If you had the power, would you stop the bombing tommorrow in the knowledge that Bin Laden would kill another 6000 people next month? Its the choice that Bush and Co need to make. Do a few hundred innocent Afghans die or do an unlimited number of Americans and Brits die in future terrorist attacks?
60% believe Bin Laden had no cause to wage war against the U.S
89% believe there is no justification for the attacks of S11
60% belive that British Muslims who have gone to fight for the taliban are not right to do so.
etc.etc.
"there are lies, damned lies and statistics"
-W. Churchill.
So much for the 99.999% of muslims condemn the attacks, bollocks
I'll die before I surrender.
Yep, cos I mean the bible has caused hardley any wars and nothing about stoning people or murdering innocents in it, o yeah wait a minute....
Who's name does God use in vain?
Erm that wasnt the point I was making. The general morality of the bible/koran and whatever other religious text are more or less the same...No killing, live good lives, dont covet etc etc.
Have you even read the bible and the koran??
And Balddog you are right. If I was in Bush's position I would bomb too. Doesn't make it right though.
Jericho, anyone?
You're damn right we need a rational code of morality and ethics. But not much progress can be made in that direction while we've still got a majority ranting about gods, devils, souls, and absolute morality, and using an ancient book written by ignorant nomads as a guide.
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bollocks, bollocks, bollocks
religion is: bollocks
it's so contradictory, so full of shite, so shouldn't be an issue in the world
british traitors? wouldn't say that. most of them probably aren't even british anyway.
40% of them want to go and get bombed? let 'em. few less uneducated people in the world
as for there not being a "bad" person...that's crap as well. the person may not consider themselves "bad" - ie. they're screwed in the head - but they have to be consistent. ppl like hitler had so many flaws in his ideologies that it makes them mockable
if someone is a christian fundamentalist and believes the word of the bible should be taken literally, then they should never ever back down on that, no matter what.
as soon as someone picks and chooses with religion or whatever, they should be condemned for it
so islamic fundamentalists wanting to live in this country - a sign of evil capitalism with many monuments to rub it in their faces - are bullshitting themselves. they should stay in their third world and live their lives there, not pick and choose
rant over
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It's a personal belief of course and you are entitled to that, but I was wondering if that sweeping statement had any factual basis or whether it was just something you came up with in the heat of the moment. If you mean that different religions contradict each other then, gosh, you're right. But no religion will contradict itself because if they did, no one would believe it.
Then explain why the Moslems still live in a country full of "infidels"?
Why do they insist that the West is an evil place when millions of them live here? They should get a clue and either choose their religion or choose to live in the decadent west, because according to Osama and his cronies they can't have both.
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I'm not a Muslim, so i can't say. I know very little of Islam, but presumably the Muslims that live in the West do not follow the Qur'an to the letter.
But don't you see?: it's not the religion itself that's contradictory in that case, but the people that are following it.