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Amon, care to comment

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
http://www.almuhajiroun.com/index2.html

In my opinion the site above is not doing Islam any favours at the moment, have you any comments.
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[This message has been edited by peacechild (edited 21-09-2001).]

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    islam knows its enemey...we in the politically correct West deny reality in order to maintain our multiculturalis immage...an immage not shared by our 'guest' workers/residents, etc.

    And if ben laben flees to Mecca...! Nothing less than nukes will be able to get him because he is seen as a religious leader, first, last, and always.

    And if 'hate' laws are to be enforced in US and elsewhere...the qu'ran must be excised of the offensive passages calling for our elimination, dress in the manner of their host country, and speak the language of the host country...in otherwords, if they are to remain amoung us, US, they must become with all or leave.

    They won't do any of the above of course, and it is so un PC of me to suggest it...I know that too...doesn't change the truth of it though.

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That site is a disgrace. These people want the destruction of western culture and to establish a worldwide Islamic state...and they are allowed to preach their hate wherever they want in this country.

    Wanna see what would happen to me if I went into public and said I wanted African culture destroyed and to have a worldwide White Christian state..
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But of course you would fight to the death to defend their right to say that.
    Or does that defence only extend to white extremists?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by soapbarbpy:
    But of course you would fight to the death to defend their right to say that.
    Or does that defence only extend to white extremists?

    Yes I would defend their right to say it and defence not only for white extremists(and just to be a smart arse; possibly, unlike you I have). BUT the point Balddog is making is that a white could not say those sort of things as it would be called racist. Once again double standards.



    [This message has been edited by peacechild (edited 21-09-2001).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sadly, the truth is that that site does speak for islam and is actually upholding the doctrines in the qu'ran!

    Be proud of your enemy, there's nothing half way about them...they really intend to destroy us all!

    Diesel

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If this group is anything like the people i remember from college all those years ago they were a real one man and a dog operation who were promptly banned by the student union after provoking trouble with jewish and gay and lesbian students.
    They had extremely conservative views and little support-and if their present web-site is anything to go by its getting smaller.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know what to think, this site claims to be a muslim site, but from what I heard, there are different denominations of muslim, just like there are different christian denominations.

    That site is fucked up, but you don't know that it is genuinley made by muslims, maybe it's made by some right wing bastards to stir trouble.

    So with one hand on the wheel
    The other out the window
    With a smile on my face
    My middle finger up...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you don't know that it is genuinley made by muslims, maybe it's made by some right wing bastards to stir trouble.

    Are you serious??? This group has been in every UK paper, almost every day for the past 10 days. They are completely genuine, the site is genuine and matches their literature perfectly. These people are real.

    Unfortunately they do have quite a bit of support. They are still a tiny minority of Moslems but from the stuff they say they will do even a dozen supporters is going to be too many.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ~*LIBERTY*~:

    but you don't know that it is genuinley made by muslims, maybe it's made by some right wing bastards to stir trouble.


    Get real.

    Maybe YOUR comment is just a left wing bastard attempt to stir trouble ?

    That comment you've made works both ways.

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think he means 'by right wing Muslim extremists' to stir up trouble, which is what you were saying also.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    extremism is the problem, not one whole religion or population. There are Christain extremists, muslim extremists, white, black, left, right, loyalist, republican, pro-life, right to choose...etc, etc.

    Freedom of opinion is all well and good, but it is the duty of democracy to protect people when extremism threatens others. That is the balance to strike.

    "politically correct" West? Where? We have created most of the problems we are now being forced to deal with.

    I feel uneay when I hear the "my country's right and yours is wrong" mentality. The kind of problem we are dealing with is an international one. The extremist, terrorist element in humanity manifests itself in every society, black/white racism in America, protestant/catholic in NI, and so on. No one "country" has gos on their side, so to speak. That kind of arrogance caused all this mess.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaz:
    extremism is the problem, not one whole religion or population.

    Nearly. The real problem is that vicious and insidious meme known as faith. Wipe that out, and we'd be far better off.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So true
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    "[they must] dress in the manner of their host country, and speak the language of the host country..."

    Just out of interest, what defines 'your' language and dress since your country is made up largely of decendents of irish, english, french and spanish immigrants.

    (totaly serious question here)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MacKenZie:
    Nearly. The real problem is that vicious and insidious meme known as faith. Wipe that out, and we'd be far better off.


    All beliefs, even science, are based on faith. Faith that the information our senses collect is correct. Get rid of faith and you get rid of thought.
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