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Democracy doesn't work
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after what happened in sweden over the weekend, I now have grave reservations about the way we have chosen to interperite democracy. are the police there for the personal protection on the world leaders or to keep the peace? the answer is both however not wanting to appear weak they provoked violance amongst the protesters then shot three of them, atleast one in the back as he was running away.
The reforendum on the euro is in my opinion already fixed, and the question has not even been asked. (money for advertising depends on the number of seats a party has.)
more people did not vote than voted for labour, the question as to why must be asked and answered not presumed.
and most importantly freedom of speach is their as long as you say what you are told eg if I was to know where John venables was imprisoned how could I possibly say without getting my self locked up.
also I dont realy want a kilo of anything I know lbs + ozs yet I am being foced into buying 500gs = 1 lb what a load of bollox.
Please anwer this one piont at a time.
The reforendum on the euro is in my opinion already fixed, and the question has not even been asked. (money for advertising depends on the number of seats a party has.)
more people did not vote than voted for labour, the question as to why must be asked and answered not presumed.
and most importantly freedom of speach is their as long as you say what you are told eg if I was to know where John venables was imprisoned how could I possibly say without getting my self locked up.
also I dont realy want a kilo of anything I know lbs + ozs yet I am being foced into buying 500gs = 1 lb what a load of bollox.
Please anwer this one piont at a time.
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Asked and answered, I think.
If the referendum has been fixed then it has been fixed by dint of desensitizing the public to issues of national import and failing to provide adequate debate on the issue.
I refer you to your previous comment about whether the police exist to protect world leaders or keep the peace.
Actually, in most cases British people still use Imperial units regardless of the units by which things are priced. Come to think of it, I don't usually care about what mass I'm buying anyway: I just get, say, six apples, or :: holds hands a few inches apart :: this much cheese.
This is exactly what imperial measurements are based on, they are based on units that in previous years were easily recognisable throughout the world, if someone mentioned a Lb someone would think medium sized apple or rock, a foot is well, a foot, and a mile was a thousand paces. Over the years the exact measurements were recorded, but what we were left with was a system that was easy to use by anyone. The world is an exact diameter when it is recorded in miles, about 14,000 i think. When mearsured in Km it is something like 12,345.435666. The metric system is relatively new, Napoleon ordered his scientists to come up with a method of measuring distance that would rival the imperial measurments, which shows how stupid he really was. People will always carry on mentally using feet,inches and pounds regardless of what it says on the label because we have a natural tendency to think like this. I think we should force imperialism on Europe instead of them forcing metrication on us.
As for democracy not working, well it doesnt. It is capitalism, not democracy. We are at the mercy of big buisness. That is why when I get a job it will be in police or armed forces, because I know I will be serving the state and the people and not the corporations.
There's a great story on the whole weights and measures thing which I read in a letter to The Times.
Some guy went to a shop to get x yards of bunting for some street parade. He asked the woman behind the counter for x yards of bunting, to which she replied that, in accordance with the law, the shop only sold bunting by the metre. He said, 'Fine, I'll have x metres of bunting, then.' She then proceeded to measure the bunting out against her arm.
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The parol board has not asked the three qustions we as a socitey need to be asured of but have made their judgment on time served.
that is unjust.
further more with no criminal convictions they could work with children or old people. also disapear from the authority tunnle vision.
if someone steals bread an employer has the right to know before a job is offered.
with annonomity this cant happen.
this will also set the bench mark for other cases.
i know through various sources which area one of them isbeing released into. but shall not say <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif">
begins with an S. a town/city not a country.
i can see why one of the mothers of the kids thinks they'll be dead within one month of their identies being released. or summin.
Look into these tired eyes. See something you might recognise.
Those three questions being...?
And, incidentally, how do you know your questions weren't asked. Do you have access to the minutes of the parole board's meeting?
Is it safe to release?
Do they show remorse?
has long enough been served?
as to if I have access to the parole boards minutes of course not.
however I do know what they have been up to in secure housing.
i didnt try and find out where they were either. actually i know where one of the families has been placed, not where the boys are. someone just posted on a livejournal that they knew through some links and connections where it was.
theyre under constant police guard now though, and are on a lfie license like most murderers who have come out of prison, the minute they do something a little bit dodgy, even if they dont break the law, but something that might endanger people, they're back inside. but i think its a bit off that future employers arent gonna know. i mean people have to declare their criminal records dont they, why is it fair for them to get away with not declaring this horrific murder? mind you they wouldnt get a job if they did.
somethingn scary, they're the same ages as me. i could end up going out with one of them. and not know it. or one of my friends could, if they went to live in the north, and a few are, for uni. just gonna have to keep away from all people with northern accents from now on who are the same age as me and male <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif">
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
~ Nietzsche
Do you honestly think that the parole board wouldn't have taken those questions into consideration, you twat. Do you think that they thought they would release a couple of people into the outside world if they thought they were a danger to the general public?
As for KNOWING what these boys have been up to in secure housing, I can only assume that you were in there with them. Bearing in mind that they are at separate units, that might prove difficult though.
Of course this could be based on stories you have heard and they would need to be taken with a pinch of salt, especially if they have been in the press.
The whole problem with this case is that people will try to make these boys appear even more monstorous than they really were. Sickos get some kind of kick from pretending to have some inside info on them and how bad they really are. A friend of a friend is not exactly a good basis for information gathering, have you never played chinese whispers?
"He's just a pimp, with a limp and some vaseline""
so yeah, thats where i heard it. not saying im taking this as gospel or anything, she just posted it but friends only coz its something kinda freaky.
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
~ Nietzsche
Is it safe for whom?
has long enough been served for what?
Relax GFM, the comment wasn't aimed at you. But I would say that hundereds of families get transferred through witness protection and I would expect that the police would be a little more careful than this with the Bulger Killers...not sure a debt collector would have access to such sensitive imformation.
yeah i was a bit dubious whether a debt collector would know, especially since there's been a high court injunction against this sort of info being released to people. could be held in contempt of court and everything and fined a sum of money that has no max limit on it, and max of 2 years in jail. this is all according to the mail btw <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"> and apparently the manchester evening news has info in it, or that CCTV pic or something and they were looking into whether the paper was in contempt of court.
but i did read all of this at 4am whilst drunk, so take it all with a pinch of salt <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"> and it IS the daily mail!
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
~ Nietzsche