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Taken off a plane by coppers for listening to 'subversive' music

A MAN was "frog-marched" off a plane on suspicion of being a terrorist - because he'd played the Clash song London Calling on his MP3 player.

A taxi driver called the cops after Harraj Mann, 24, played him the punk anthem, which includes the lyrics "now war is declared and battle come down".

He also played Nowhere Man by the Beatles and Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song, which includes the line: "The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands, to fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!"

The cab was taking Harraj to an airport to catch a BMi Baby flight to London but the driver became suspicious about his passenger's choice of music and alerted the police.

By the time they acted, the flight was taxiing into position on the runway - so they ordered it back to the terminal and escorted Harraj off the plane.

He was quizzed by Special Branch officers for three hours under the Anti-Terrorism Act.

But by the time he was released, he had missed his flight, which left Durham Tees Valley airport at 7pm last Thursday.
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This is getting fucking ridiculous... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    This is getting fucking ridiculous... :rolleyes:

    It is indeed, the "freedom of speech" which in my opinion doesn't even exist properly is going to get even more restricted. Now you are a terrorist because you are listening to certain songs. This society is really getting mader everyday.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    An Islamic terrorist on his way to Valhalla?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    An Islamic terrorist on his way to Valhalla?

    ...whilst listening to the clash?

    You couldn't make this shit up. Unbelievable.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i cant see how anyone doesnt see where this coutnry is heading


    imwaiting ofr a blacklist of offensive material to be formed, at government discretion
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I’d naturally laugh but there’s not really anything funny about some poor bloke being stopped for three hours for no reason. The taxi driver is obviously just stupid but Special Branch don’t really have any excuse, they’re supposedly well trained and apparently know what they’re doing. Clearly that’s not the case. Although I guess it’s important to remember that the Daily Record can be hardly trusted as a reliable source. If the story is as they’ve reported it and there aren’t any glaring details missing then the officers in question certainly deserve a bollocking for wasting a member of the public’s time, a grovelling apology for the bloke would be in order too and a few patronising training courses to waste a few hours of the officers time would seem only fair.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fucking magic.

    I am coming round to the opinion that it's going to happen, the whole totalitarian thing, so lets get it the fuck over with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm laughing, because if I didn't, I'd probably cry.

    Does anyone know of any lobbying groups / NGOs / etc. that have been set up to preserve civil liberties from the government? Amnesty international doesnt seem wholly appropriate because thats more about human rights, but what about freedom?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally Posted by TheShyBoyInTheCorner

    Does anyone know of any lobbying groups / NGOs / etc. that have been set up to preserve civil liberties from the government? Amnesty international doesnt seem wholly appropriate because thats more about human rights, but what about freedom?

    No mate, they are all licenced/taxed/monitored by the state and therefore designed to be useless.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    most of you have no place moaning.
    you wanted hunting banned smoking banned cameras on every lamp post ...
    most of you are responsible for us loosing our freedoms and choices.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    "If you want to know the culprit, look into a mirror" - V, V for Vendetta.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    klintock wrote:
    "If you want to know the culprit, look into a mirror" - V, V for Vendetta.

    that film was scarily like modern day life


    but ive mastered my subrowska/apple juice mixxing skills so im happy :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    most of you have no place moaning.
    you wanted hunting banned smoking banned cameras on every lamp post ...
    most of you are responsible for us loosing our freedoms and choices.

    I'm against cruelty to animals. I dont think hunting was justified as a practical 'culling', it was a bloodsport. But thats another debate... there have to be limits, but the reasons for the limits have to be clear. Freedoms that infringe on other people's freedoms I suppose have to be limited: for example, the freedom to punch who you like. Its not fair to punch someone else in the face, so we've got rules against it.

    Listening to certain types of music though, adhering to certain political thoughts, protesting in certain areas - there is no good reason why there should be limits on these freedoms. As per usual, 'terrorism' is used, because people are scared and if its to protect us against 'terrorism' then its ok.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm against cruelty to animals. I dont think hunting was justified as a practical 'culling', it was a bloodsport. But thats another debate... there have to be limits, but the reasons for the limits have to be clear. Freedoms that infringe on other people's freedoms I suppose have to be limited: for example, the freedom to punch who you like. Its not fair to punch someone else in the face, so we've got rules against it.

    .
    i have no problem with rules ...i do have a problem with to many rules though.
    yes it was a blood sport ..modern man so out of touch with nature and death ....meaning you won't be able to go fishing soon ...and god help us all if we ever get a vegatarian prime minister or an animal rights activist in power!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm against cruelty to animals. I dont think hunting was justified as a practical 'culling', it was a bloodsport

    In order to stop those humans killing foxes, you had to get the state to threaten, injure, kidnap and assault them. If you are really against violence it's a funny way to show it.
    Freedoms that infringe on other people's freedoms I suppose have to be limited: for example, the freedom to punch who you like. Its not fair to punch someone else in the face, so we've got rules against it.

    That's fine. the problem is that the people who enforce the rules can punch who the fuck they like with no come back. Oh and foxes < humans, btw.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    klintock wrote:
    "If you want to know the culprit, look into a mirror" - V, V for Vendetta.
    :yes: To complacency of the Majority lets this happn.

    I think it is time for us few to take a stand? Shall we all so "No. Not whilst I am about."... anyone actually with me, or are we all reading the papers and watching Eastenders, contented in our little box?

    It gets worse every day.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    most of you are responsible for us loosing our freedoms and choices.

    I've never voted for the people in power.

    Of course, it wouldn't make a blind bit of fucking difference.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is indeed, the "freedom of speech" which in my opinion doesn't even exist properly is going to get even more restricted. Now you are a terrorist because you are listening to certain songs. This society is really getting mader everyday.

    We know the taxi driver heard someone listening to lyrics, but what did the driver tell the police? We dont know that

    Where any where did they see he was a terrorist, or did he become a terrorist because of his music choices, he was suspected, a very bad suspicion i admit, but a suspicion none the less,
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've never voted for the people in power.

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    many people on this board have never voted but ...they do voice opinions supporting the taking of our freedoms.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    many people on this board have never voted but ...they do voice opinions supporting the taking of our freedoms.

    Some of these people have quite backward and reactionary views.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    klintock wrote:
    In order to stop those humans killing foxes, you had to get the state to threaten, injure, kidnap and assault them. If you are really against violence it's a funny way to show it.

    I dont like the state threatening, injuring, kidnapping or assaulting anyone. I think though that there should be a message that if its wrong (and its my belief it is - but thats another debate - for the purposes of this discussion lets 'assume' it is) then people should agree that to protect the welfare of an animal that is being treated cruly, thats its basically not fair. Both sides shake hands on it etc. the problem with 60,000,000 people is you will never meet a complete consensus, so going with what most people want is the key. And then, assuming thats the right decision, showing the others why. Of course, I dont advocate brain washing either (a la mcdonalds).

    [/quote]That's fine. the problem is that the people who enforce the rules can punch who the fuck they like with no come back. Oh and foxes < humans, btw.[/QUOTE]

    I dont like the police force in the UK. I think they should be there to uphold and protect the law, not supress people. They shouldnt regulate the people, the laws are (in my idealistic eyes) written by the people, and they stick to them. When there are problems with the law being abused, then the police can step in to rectify this. I think their image now though, they look more like imperial storm troopers with wires coming out of them from various radios, body armour, an array of tools to restrain and 'defend' themselves... they should in my eyes be just people, upstanding members of the community who take the responsibility to look after the laws the people have agreed on.

    Foxes < humans? Debatable. At the end of the day everything dies, so maybe it doesnt matter at all.

    Last point being, somehow a lot of this is irrelevent because we dont live in a democracy - 60,000,000 cant operate together. It works on a process of elected dictatorship, where few control the many. The few are elected every few years, but they're elected by thousands and have no obligation to any single person except themselves.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well at least this 10 year old boy wasn't prosecuted... I mean the CPS have to use their discretion sometime, surely? Police are turning into enforcers.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Joe Strummer (peace be upon him) woulda been proud!
    A bit of trivia.
    Rock The Casbah was the first song played by Armed Forces Radio at the start of Desert Shield/Storm.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Joe Strummer (peace be upon him) woulda been proud!
    A bit of trivia.
    Rock The Casbah was the first song played by Armed Forces Radio at the start of Desert Shield/Storm.

    Interesting. Always found the Armed Forces to have good taste in most of what they play.
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