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Actually, in Iran women enjoy a lot of freedoms and liberties. Much more so than other Islamic States.
Reminder: All religions are for emos. Ie people who want to complain about imaginary problems that don't matter and also indulge in persecution/martyr complexes.
I now return you to your regulary scheduled debate.
POST OF THE WEEK IMHO. :thumb:
As far as Im concerned religion should stay out of schools apart from in lessons. If someone wants to follow their religions to that level then they should go to a religious school. Uniform rules are there to lower the differences between students not highlite them.
she could of worn appropiate school uniform that took religious considerations into account but decided it werent hardcore enough for her
Argh, she COULD HAVE. Sorry, personal pet-hate.
I do think, though, that watered-down religious dress-code misses the point. If she feels she has to cover her head for faith reasons she should be allowed. We had this debate over staff wearing the jilbab at UCL Hospital in Union council and decided overwhelmingly to support those who choose to wear it.
she was allowed to cover her head though, she wanted full body garb which rest of school didnt find appropiate, despite the fact 79% of students there are muslim..... which must say something about the kind of minority this girls views are in
if i decided to form my own cult/reilgion, should my beliefs be taken into account in school uniform, of course not
There's a difference between something some student starts and a religion that has been around years...
There's a difference between something some student starts and a religion that has been around years... But then canteens cater for vegetarians which is a lifestyle (hen again, Buddhists and Hindus are often vegetarian to my knowledge), so if you wanted to be uppity and make a point, you could try.
There are different types of Muslim, at least it seems so in my university, some types are stricter than others. It doesn't matter whether there aren't any that follow her denomination there, if it goes hand in hand with her religion then they are oblged to accomodate that. It is just like in my old school where the Muslim pupils didn't have to attend assembly.
You clearly cannot be that intelligent can you kermit to say that, since i am not against Islam or ethnic minorities of any kind, or ever made any mention of been against them or their respective and varied cultures.
You on the other hand always make threads about black culture and other ethnic minorities of Britain.
So i see no reason why to come at me like that, when i was merely pointing out a news story that related to this thread, as in each cases it was young girls attempting to force their beliefs and attitudes on others. one born into a faith, one a convert to said faith.
your anger seems misguided in its direction, unless you think the only people who deserve legal aid are those who agree with you.
imo religion should have no legal protection in being allowed to practice certain things if they break the general rule, and strangely in this country, school uniform is one of them things, if hses cares that much she can go off to saudi where they will allow her to practice, and not drive a car, or leave home without covering her face
Sorry but to me that just sounds biggoted, the whole "if you don't like it, clear off" atitude. One good thing about this country is the right to be able to practice our religion freely as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, there is no harm in this and it abides to International Law. How she is so lucky to live in the UK and be allowed to practice her religion as well as drive a car is irrelevent. She is not in Saudi, she is in the UK and it won't kill us to bend the rules slightly to accomodate her.
Maybe you should actually read what else I wrote about denominations of Islam and dress , it is as if the school is assuming that sone size fits all in Islam, the young woman is unhappy and wouldn't kick up a fuss for no reason would she?
If I were a Muslim and saw a "muslim friendly dress code" I would feel condescended that people had assumed our religious needs are all alike.
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Incidentally, what do muslim girls do in PE?
Well, for example, should people wearing this sort of thing be allowed in a mall, since you can't go in wearing a baseball cap nowadays since it covers your face?
I don't have a problem with people wearing what they want though I reckon this sounds like the usual teenage temper tantrum about having to follow rules, rather than a geniune case of religious discrimination
This case has already cost the taxpayer- that's you and me- over £300,000, and rising.
Are you seriously trying to claim that that is a great expenditure of money? Especially when divorced women can't even get legal aid to defend their family homes against their spouses?
The legal aid pot is very small as it is. Pissing it away on the frivolous demands of a stupid little teenage girl is nothing short of a national disgrace.
exactly, so it's not the 'stupid little teenage girl' you should be so angry at.
Your all crazy.
"They!" force her to go to a building to learn lies under threat of imprisoning her parents and you moan when she wants to put a hat on.
The rule is stupid. Stupid rules should be ignored. Rules should be for people, not the other way around.
Every site needs at least one flaming troll, to keep things from going stale
I explained the news story, you only dont like it because it wasnt you who posted it first or about black people, who are your usual targets as you seem to only know about black culture.