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Dell make hundreds of millions of dollars profit every year. US$1.2bn at the last count.
Why do they need more?
Should jobs be secure? Yes. Companies shouldn't be allowed to lay off thousands of people just to keep the CEO in Bentleys.
Do you not think people are entitled to security in employment?
You're the economist, you know the damage offshoring does to developing nations.
Do I? Actually as is evident form what I have been saying I think rather differently.
Investment and jobs is almost always good for a country good for a country.
If firms didn't move their production then we would still be an industrial nation (great :rolleyes: ) and the developing world would be far poorere than it is now.
Again, how is this good?
All they do is destroy local business, and never give developing countries a chance to get off their knees. Rather than "investing" in these countries, they rape them of all their worth in exchange for a few trinkets.
Dell has no interest in developing India, or any other developing nation. The sole motivation is profit- cheaper costs, and easier to take what it needs.
The only proof is in hard data not in emotive opinionating and ideology. I am comfortable with the many studeis I have seen showing that foreign direct investment is positively related to the fortunes of that country and I am happy with that.......
I'm sure Nike's investment in the Far East is doing wonders for someone- I just get the feeling it is Nike and the sweatshop owners. hey ho.
The fortunes of a country are largely irrelevant to the fortunes of the people living there. It's great having a high GDP if Nike ensure only one person in 100 has access to it.
Your view that "They are not being made to work there are they?" betrays a rather naive and privileged view of the world. The fact is that actually people are forced to work by economic circumstances. That you can't get your head around this rather says to me that you lack life experience.
I do try and communicate at your low level.
Good response there as per usual. :rolleyes:
Keep it up!
Way to miss (deliberatly I suspect) the point. We are a very rich species, we have incredible wealth and technology. The fact that we can't actually house and feed people, even in a country as wealthy as Britain tells me that there is a problem somewhere. Why are working hours going up? Why is pay not going up?
Except we don't do we. All we get is a frustrating customer service experience.
Are they making profits? Then they don't need to cut costs. If they did need to cut costs, maybe the bosses could take a pay cut.
Try reading the damn thread for a change.
Is he fuck
I've shown you loads of info about globalisastion, the IMF, "free" trade etc. You always seem to leave the thread after that...
It has always seemed to me that you are the first to resort to insults, a sure sign that you are struggling hence why it happens so frequently.......
What does this mean.
What 'force' are you referring to specifically. The one that says people have to work to make a living, not much controversy there is there.
I thought even the socialist paradise people had to work?
Just as I thought - you can't understand what I mean because you're actually quite priviledged and have a choice in what you do. Not everyone does y'know.
Depends what you mean by "work" doesn't it?
http://rspas.anu.edu.au/economics/publish/papers/wp2002/wp-econ-2002-05.pdf
Just search FDI and growth or something similar.
Sadly I can't show you the best stuff because that is in journals and they are restricted.
'Info' in the form of opinion pieces by people of the same political persuasion as yourself.
That is not 'evidence'
Only properly analysed data counts as evidence, something you would know about being such a great economist.......
Sadly data is likely to go against your established conventional wisdom so you will of course ignore.
Just glad people such as yourself don't have any control over economic policy etc.......
I've presented you with loads of evidence. All you do is either (a) leave the thread quietly or (b) argue that black is white even when any fool can see its black - your absurd view on the MPH campaign being a prime example.
Stop pretending you are some kind of working class hero sitting in your cozy flat in London pissing about the internet pretending that you have some special experience of all the suffering in the world..........
I think I know a tad more about it than you do - seeing as its my job an'all to help people get back into employment. You're a spoilt middle class arse and you know it.
How surprising is it that data gathered and anaysed by economists will support their views? What can measuring things like GDP and productivity tell us about people's everyday life experience? You appear to think everything can be measured in terms of money...
Such a shame it was written on the basis that they were proving what they think, not the other way around.
Oh well.
Economists making everything fit their agenda? Never!
Yes, quite.
Yeah, good one. Nice to see you engaging in the thread for a change.
All other systems lead to violent degradation, stagnation or the sort of dictatorships that blighted the last century.
You might not like the idea of some people having a great time with pots of cash, but to say that the solution is to make everyone dirt poor is fucking lunacy.
The idea that me having stuff means that you automatically lose is also madness of the highest order.