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Best place to live when at Uni?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    And going to university just for the "experience" sounds like an expensive and pointless waste of time to me.

    To you it might, but there are plenty of students who would disagree with you...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To you it might, but there are plenty of students who would disagree with you...
    I just think that getting thousands and thousands of pounds worth of debt simply for an "experience" is a pointless idea.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know, I meant that sometimes people who live at home are just there for the study, not the experience. I should have made it a bit clearer :)
    boring sods.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote:
    boring sods.
    That's slightly unfair. The student lifestyle isn't for everyone - the life of getting hopelessly drunk every night definitely isn't something I'm going to embrace, for instance. People who stay at home usually have other reasons, like money. And that seems perfectly sensible.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    That's slightly unfair. The student lifestyle isn't for everyone - the life of getting hopelessly drunk every night definitely isn't something I'm going to embrace, for instance. People who stay at home usually have other reasons, like money. And that seems perfectly sensible.

    Seems perfectly sensible, but still boring. :p

    You don't need to get drunk every night to have a good time. There is no reason why you can't study hard and enjoy the social side of university.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm sorry but I personally feel that half the point of university is the student lifestyle - if you do spend the whole time studying (as some morons on my course seem to be electing to do) you come out at the end with a degree, but so what? Your degree goes no further than getting you your first job half the time these days - people want experience the next time you apply for a job.

    Particularly in my course (medicine) there's two definitive cultures - those that stay in the library all lunchtime, study all night and never go out, and those who study some but party lots too. At the end of the day, who's the better doctor? I would say the latter group - they've had much more social interaction, they've seen more things, done more things, they understand how the world really works and they've had a bloody good time doing it. At the end of the five years, you're still a doctor - but the one with lower grades but who's had a good social life and been involved in things is the one more likely to get a better job, more likely to have a better bedside manner - and will have had the time of his life for the past 5 years...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You don't need to get drunk every night to have a good time. There is no reason why you can't study hard and enjoy the social side of university.
    The problem is striking the right balance.
    dr_carter wrote:
    I'm sorry but I personally feel that half the point of university is the student lifestyle - if you do spend the whole time studying (as some morons on my course...
    Excuse me, morons? What is wrong with going to university to do some work rather than get drunk legless all the time and to treat it as some sort of extended jolly?
    ...seem to be electing to do) you come out at the end with a degree, but so what? Your degree goes no further than getting you your first job half the time these days - people want experience the next time you apply for a job.

    Particularly in my course (medicine) there's two definitive cultures - those that stay in the library all lunchtime, study all night and never go out, and those who study some but party lots too. At the end of the day, who's the better doctor?
    I personally don't give a toss whether my doctor has been getting drunk at university, or partying shamelessly. All I care about is whether they're qualified to do the job properly.
    At the end of the five years, you're still a doctor - but the one with lower grades but who's had a good social life and been involved in things is the one more likely to get a better job, more likely to have a better bedside manner - and will have had the time of his life for the past 5 years...
    Lower grades? Also therefore the one less likely to have a job at the end of it?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    The problem is striking the right balance.
    Which is what most people manage to do perfectly well. It's really not that difficult.
    Lower grades? Also therefore the one less likely to have a job at the end of it?
    If you have a degree in medicine you'd have no problem finding a job.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Excuse me, morons? What is wrong with going to university to do some work rather than get drunk legless all the time and to treat it as some sort of extended jolly?

    It's medicine - it's not just about knowledge, it's about the ability to interact with people, and I fail to see how sitting in a corner with your nose in the book, never leaving your room all year achieves this...
    I personally don't give a toss whether my doctor has been getting drunk at university, or partying shamelessly. All I care about is whether they're qualified to do the job properly.

    They will be - but this isn't just about benefit for the patient, it's about self development. Besides, medicine is very much about inter-disciplinary co-operation - if you've gone through 5 years of medical school barely talking to anyone, how would you hope to achieve this?
    Lower grades? Also therefore the one less likely to have a job at the end of it?

    Not really - we're talking about the difference between 75% and 80% here, and choosing first year jobs is just the same as UCAS forms really - it's partially on your grades but more on what sort of person you are, whether you're sociable, responsible and dedicated - all of which can be better shown through extra-curricular activities and socialising.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    They will be - but this isn't just about benefit for the patient, it's about self development. Besides, medicine is very much about inter-disciplinary co-operation - if you've gone through 5 years of medical school barely talking to anyone, how would you hope to achieve this?
    You should see some of the doctors I've come across in my time! :lol:
    Not really - we're talking about the difference between 75% and 80% here, and choosing first year jobs is just the same as UCAS forms really - it's partially on your grades but more on what sort of person you are, whether you're sociable, responsible and dedicated - all of which can be better shown through extra-curricular activities and socialising.
    Getting drunk is an extra-curricular activity now? :p

    Nah, I see what you mean.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's a lot to be said for getting drunk... There's a chap at my hospital called Mr. Bircher, widely known as the best orthopaedic surgeon in the country and widely known around the medical school as the most laddish consultant you'll ever meet!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    There's a lot to be said for getting drunk... There's a chap at my hospital called Mr. Bircher, widely known as the best orthopaedic surgeon in the country and widely known around the medical school as the most laddish consultant you'll ever meet!

    Well if you haven't boned at least five nurses by the time you're an SHO then you're definitely not a good doctor in my book :thumb:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well if you haven't boned at least five nurses by the time you're an SHO then you're definitely not a good doctor in my book :thumb:
    Obviously, the childhood game of Doctors & Nurses lives on.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Obviously, the childhood game of Doctors & Nurses lives on.

    Oh yeah, but on a whole new level :naughty:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes indeed - even if the men are in the nurses outfits these days... (or maybe it's just at our place)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh yeah, but on a whole new level :naughty:
    And why not, frankly? :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Apparently 'modern nurses are becoming increasingly disconcerted with their image amongst the medical profession being one of mindless sex objects.'

    She didn't seem to mind last night :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    Apparently 'modern nurses are becoming increasingly disconcerted with their image amongst the medical profession being one of mindless sex objects.'
    Make sure you don't show them the "dressing up" thread in the Sex forum, then. :naughty:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Trying to get the student nurses into their nurses outfits around here is like trying to get an Amish family into a porn film...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    Trying to get the student nurses into their nurses outfits around here is like trying to get an Amish family into a porn film...
    Patience pays dividends, (soon-to-be) doctor... ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lipsy wrote:
    walkindude logic :D


    Its good logic!! Based on experience to.

    I stayed at home and went to local uni as did my mate. I also ran into a few others who did similar and people who knew others that did.

    The guys , including myself were quite ostracised, well poeple were friendly but they didnt wnat to get to knwo the home poiple and such. Hell people dodnt wnat to know people on their onw course. It wa speople who they lived with that they made friends with.

    Except for girls, girls did seem to find friends whethger they were home uni's or not.

    Namely I say coz, girls like other girls to talk to, hang out with, go out with and the guys al want to fuck girls so they had guys friends to.

    Now the guys dodnt have guys fater them so they dont get the guy friends and girls sepnd more time with the others that arent local so.

    I remember me an dmy mate were used a bit for information on the city but after that, didn't want to know and before you say it, it wasn't just me, it was other local guys I ran into there as well or read form and such.

    I mean you could put on amassive effort to do all the studnet union stuff and such but its an uphill battle. Most if not all the local peopel that went to uni had the same friends and went out with the same people as they always did, uni did't do owt for them but pass time and geta degree.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    Patience pays dividends, (soon-to-be) doctor... ;)

    Trying to make it last as long as possible atm - I reckon I can hit 7 years without retaking any!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Walkindude wrote:
    It's good logic! Based on experience too.

    I stayed at home and went to a local uni as did my mate. I also ran into a few others who did the same, and people who knew others that did. The guys, including myself were quite ostracised. People were friendly, but they didn't want to get to know the "home people" and such. People didn't want to know people on their own course. It was people who they lived with that they made friends with. Except for girls, girls did seem to find friends whether they were home uni's or not.

    Most, if not all the local people that went to uni had the same friends and went out with the same people as they always did, uni didn't do nowt for them but pass time and get a degree.
    I've just spent five minutes correcting all those spelling mistakes... :p

    I do know of a few people who go to the local university. Often, they say they went there because of convenience... "oh, we really like this area, we want to stay here, we'll go local, and we'll save money too" ... fair point. But are they missing out on something? I'm going away from home, possibly hundreds of miles away, and it'll affect my time at university, no doubt.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's better to go miles away from where you live!

    When else will you learn useful skills of life?
    a) How to use a washing machine without ruining your clothes.
    b) How to get completely lashed on twenty quid.
    c) How useful a tin opener is in a crisis.
    d) How to get from somewhere you don't know (random bar) to somewhere else you don't know (halls) along streets you've never seen before - whilst completely trashed...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    It's better to go miles away from where you live!

    When else will you learn useful skills of life?
    a) How to use a washing machine without ruining your clothes.
    b) How to get completely lashed on twenty quid.
    c) How useful a tin opener is in a crisis.
    d) How to get from somewhere you don't know (random bar) to somewhere else you don't know (halls) along streets you've never seen before - whilst completely trashed...
    How does being 200 miles away from home whilst doing all this sound?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I highly recommend being far enough from home that your drunken adventures are never likely to lead you slap bang into your parents on a night out...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    I highly recommend being far enough from home that your drunken adventures are never likely to lead you slap bang into your parents on a night out...
    No matter where I choose, I'll be pretty safe then...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You should be far enough away so they can't come and see you out of the blue, but close enough so you can go and grovel for money if necessary ;) And going back for nice food is also a good idea!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Why would you want your parents to come and see you out of the blue?!?

    You might have a nurse in your bedroom...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dr_carter wrote:
    Why would you want your parents to come and see you out of the blue?!?

    No I said I wouldn't want them to come and see me!! :yes:
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