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EU wants WTO to fine America 4 Billion Dollars

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
The EU citing unfair tax breaks to American companies wants the World Trade Organization to fine the Americans 4 Billion Dollars.

Who wil be sent to collect it? Who will make us pay it? Who do you think will suffer most in a trade war or war of any kind?

I am sorry but we Americans can do what we want and get away with it. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

We have the economic might and the military to match. Our culture permeates the very being of the EU. MacDonalds is everywhere along with Coke and Pepsi. Hollywood rules!

We now enforce the PAX AMERICANA!!! Very slowly you are being enculturated! Foolish Europeans. Resistance is futile!

America essentially runs the world so get used to it! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

Now I'll step aside and put on the asbestos suit.

Honestly though, and all kidding aside, do you think the American Government is going to pay 4 Billion Dollars for something like this?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree..

    Of course the USA will pay if the WTO orders it..Your government is just as infiltrated by the globalists as ours is.

    If you think the USA is going to miraculously pull out of the UN and go back to isolationism then you are very very wrong.

    If the globalists order it then the lapdogs in your government will oblige..same as ours would.

    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In a war, everyone will suffer equally, as all the key players now have nuclear capabilities. However, I do agree that america will make the rest of the world suffer, with the brains of George W. controlling the most powerful country in the world.......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Balddog,

    You mean the way the USA has paid its UN dues?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just watch and see Sean_K..

    BTW Murph, have fun paying for the refurbishment of the UN building in NYC..

    We are all pawns in their game

    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    WTO, G8, World Bank, IMF, even the UN, all have been established to uphold the (economic, but sometimes political) interests of the developed countries, or more particularly, those of the US. the US bankrolls the majority of these organisations, provides most of the senior staff, and all of the trade embargos which can be utilised rely on US consent to make them worthwhile.

    now, if you ask me, thats fucked up. if the WTO demands the US to pay the 4 billion (which is peanuts, really), i woudlnt be surprised if loony bush suspended funding of the WTO, and withdrew from its trade agreements.

    its all well and good saying 'the US rules the world', and it may seem true. but, in reality, it is US corporations that rule the world - even the biggest corporation in the world (some bank in japan) relies on the re-investment of General Motors and other US corps in their corporation, else it would have no money. and US corporations do not act in the interests of american citizens, or any citizens. they act in self-interest, extracting profit from anything, no matter what the ethical considerations.

    this is why globalisation is wrong
    this is why international organisations need to change
    this is why progress is being slowed in the third world
    this is why the EU was formed as a trade rival to the US economy
    this is why american military might is used for commercial ends, as in the gulf war
    this is why corporations influence even the most democratic system (corrupto bush for starters)

    this is why people take action

    NB: i'm not really an extremist anti-globalisation type, i just sound like one <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What is truly funny is that the average American doesn't even know what the hell the WTO is! It seems people all over the world are being brainwashed. I don't know why people don't wake up and stop behaving like sheep. Methinkst Orwell was spot on in his view of what is to come!

    I wish the American government would be a little more hands off as regards the rest of the world.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wish the American government would be a little more hands off as regards the rest of the world.

    Dont we all.....I think the same about the UK



    "An Englishman's never so natural as when he's holding his tongue." --Henry James
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Murph the Surf:
    It seems people all over the world are being brainwashed. I don't know why people don't wake up and stop behaving like sheep.

    Because they don't damn well want anything other than to be sheep, that's why! Being a sheep is easy: all the difficult decisions are made for you. Who wants to grapple with economic policy or judicial reviews every day of the week, save those with a love of such things, who are in a staggering minority?

    People don't want to have to make sophisticated moral judgements by themselves - it's too stressful. They leave such things to bishops, rabbis, gurus, judges, and constitutions. They don't even care if the judgements are wrong, just so long as they exist.

    Why don't they wake up? Becuase they don't want to and couldn't survive if they did.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    all of us except the most politically insane/active are, essentially, isolationists. we put the concerns of ourselves, our family, our friends, our possessions, before those of society. even the politicians do not act in the interest of society - they act in the interest of themselves, their party, and their personal connections.

    we cant all make all the decisions ourselves - that's anarchy (which has been discussed earlier). so, we make certain(elected) people responsible for society. if that is mis-managed, most people are too concerned with their own affairs to speak out and take political action. but when things are running well, they dont really care either. it is the few that make the difference, it always has been, and probably always will be.

    i think people could survive if all had a political interest, but it would require a far greater amount of honesty and truth than is present in the current political systems we live under.

    but to be honest, who gives a toss anyway <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt;

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well Dan, I hope they get involved and right soon. The day is fast coming when it may be too late!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the power that the corporations has is obscene.
    Has anyone here played Deus Ex? The world in that game is the same as where we are heading, a world controlled by the Corporation.
    I think it is good that our government is increasing its control over the average person, because as long as they have power over us the corporations don't. At least the government acts in our interests, albeit in a long winded sort of way.

    Has anyone here ever heard of the corporation charter? During the Victorian age, parliment passed a law, saying that ALL corporations must recieve a charter, outlining what they can and cant do. If the company breaches that charter, parliment has the power to dissolve the company and seize it's assets. A few decades ago they did this with alarming regularity, but now they are just too scared. I think they should start doing this again, in order to keep the companies on their toes and prevent accidents like the Hatfield crash from happening again.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Murf - I read with interest that Bush has 'pissed the budget up the wall' and now intends to dip into social security funds to pay for his tax-cuts and war games. Methinks its not all rosy in the land of the free after all <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Moonkat:
    Murf - I read with interest that Bush has 'pissed the budget up the wall' and now intends to dip into social security funds to pay for his tax-cuts and war games. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;


    and all this in a country in an economic slowdown, which could lead to recession if mis-managed (oh dear oh dear oh dear...)

    Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
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