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Say a prayer, Tony...
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Glorifying terrorism could soon be an offence, but here's something else that needs to be stopped - our narccisstic, egotistical Prime Ministers from glorifying himself on TV. You can always trust Mr Blair to go to the toughest interviewers that ask the most difficult questions. John Humphrys? Nope. Jeremy Paxman? Not him either. I'll put you out of your misery - Michael Parkinson. 
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Why is he being interviewed by this man? What next - an interview with Sooty and Sweep where he's grilled about the latest scandal involving Tessa Jowell's husband, Silvio Berlusconi, and his Italian cronies? But to be fair to Parky, he did ask whether the PM about the Iraq war. Had he prayed to God when deciding whether to send troops into Iraq. And Blair replied...
"Yes. Of course, you struggle with your own conscience about it... and its one of these situations that, I suppose, very few people ever find themselves in. In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well. The only way you can take a decision like that is to do the right thing according to your conscience."
This raises more questions than it answers. What does God think about all the lies that were told to take Britain and the USA into an illegal and highly immoral war? What does God make of the news that at least 100,000 Iraqi citizens, 103 British troops and around 3,000 US troops are dead thanks to this bloodbath? What does God think of the instability and the prospect of civil war in the Middle East? Do let us know what he says, Mr Blair...
Thanks to Parky for putting this back on the agenda. It may say a lot when we need celebs to raise these issues instead of our largely compliant media, but no matter. What do you think?
:: Details ::Why is he being interviewed by this man? What next - an interview with Sooty and Sweep where he's grilled about the latest scandal involving Tessa Jowell's husband, Silvio Berlusconi, and his Italian cronies? But to be fair to Parky, he did ask whether the PM about the Iraq war. Had he prayed to God when deciding whether to send troops into Iraq. And Blair replied...
"Yes. Of course, you struggle with your own conscience about it... and its one of these situations that, I suppose, very few people ever find themselves in. In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well. The only way you can take a decision like that is to do the right thing according to your conscience."
This raises more questions than it answers. What does God think about all the lies that were told to take Britain and the USA into an illegal and highly immoral war? What does God make of the news that at least 100,000 Iraqi citizens, 103 British troops and around 3,000 US troops are dead thanks to this bloodbath? What does God think of the instability and the prospect of civil war in the Middle East? Do let us know what he says, Mr Blair...
Thanks to Parky for putting this back on the agenda. It may say a lot when we need celebs to raise these issues instead of our largely compliant media, but no matter. What do you think?
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Seems it was proved. Ah well. Fuck, we have an arse no better than Bush it seems. Well, I suppose he IS literate.
Taking the country into a war is the most serious decision a Prime Minister can ever have to make, and this one made it on the basis of lies. For that, he deserves to be impeached and locked up.
Rest assured whenever the next Prime Minister comes along... Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Ming Campbell... okay, I'm not being serious about the last one, but never mind... I will be just as critical of them.
Unless they do a good job, then I hope you'll complement them. I can't complement Tony about anything - all of Labour's acheivments have been down to - Gordon Brown's work with the economy. In all other areas, they seem to have failed us.
Ming? I'd laugh if he won. Then say "Flash... aaah aaah!". And start to wonder if the Lib Dems would have any idea about organising a government.
Gordon Brown has done some good things - for instance, the Minimum Wage, giving independence to the Bank of England. However, his £5 billion a year tax on the private pensions is utterly disgraceful and unforgivable.
But they can do alot better right than they are at the moment. And yeah, SG, that pensions thing is a fucking joke. Also a fucking joke is that my day will likley have to work until 70!
Hey! They liberatled lots of people who are happy now they ....
Oh.
Of course it'd be preferable to have neither, but since we're in a "lesser of two evils" kind of situ...
And you'd still vote for that again?
:yuck:
Blah blah blah....drone......drone.....what's that Sooty?
I'm a tosser of the first order?
Water pistol straight in the face, TB makes spluttering noises while Sweep makes those high pitched farting noises. Brilliant!
Then Sue could come in and sort the fucking lot out with her endangered species goodness. "Really Tony, invading wasn't very nice, was it? Scampi, get the frying pan."
Magic.
you moan far too more than is healthy
plus minimum wage? i thought that was a good idea
if you were old enough ...you woukld have experienced ...schools without books ...schools with the rain pouring in anfd no chance of any money to repair.
hospitals in the same condition.
massive shortage of coppers ...
all these things and more ...tonys lot have massively improved.
perfection ...impossible.
remeber my words in this thread now ...please ...YOU /...WILL NEVER HAVE IT THIS GOOD ...THIS EASY ...EVER AGAIN.
and when your scratching about in the dirt and confusion of whats coming ...think ...rolly did say ...we never had it so good ...........
and when your scratching about in the dirt and confusion of whats coming ...think ...rolly did say ...we never had it so good ...........
It's good of Blair to confirm officially what everyone knew, that he's not accountable to the electorate. I didn't realise he had to report to God though.
Dubya will be so proud...
What a fine pair of Crusaders on a mission from God we have here... And some people complained when Paxman asked Blair whether he and Bush prayed together.
get over it!! its happend!! Stop whining about it.
oh and for the record, I think the media ha sblown it all out of proportion.How it reads to me is, and what he said from what I saw is simply him saying that he was responible to the pople and at the same time resonsible to god, meaning that both wold judge him just the same and that he dwrestled with consicious about going to war coz he knew it would cost lives and affect peoples lives.
there is nothing wrong with that!!!
You want some1 that will go into war without thinking on it???
jeez if the guy was a die hard atheist i bet people would judge him just as harshly.
If you got beaten up and robbed by someone in the street and had been trying to get the police to arrest your assailant for 3 years, how would you feel if they said 'oh mate, give it a rest, it's been 3 years now' ?
Justice doesn't have an expiration date. Not while the perpetrators are still alive anyway.
That’s pretty unfair and you’re taking his comments out of context. Blair was sharing his personal, private views. He did not claim in some jingoistic sense that God 'is on our side' and his comments certainly don’t signify an attempt at religious justification for the war. Blair has never made any secret of being a religious person, I don’t see the problem with his personal conscience being influenced by his belief that he is ultimately accountable to a higher being. I’m quite sure that most religious people would consider their faith when making choices and I don’t see any problem with that, it’s not as if Blair is forcing his private religious beliefs on anybody.
And it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that Blair is a ‘crusader’ believing he is on a ‘mission from God’ – you really do discredit your own position by making such childish and baseless insults.
With regard to his comments, interesting that they have drawn near universal condemnation from relatives of dead soldiers to Christian groups to political observers. To draw God into the issue was wrong at many levels, and brings nothing positive or relevant to the debate.
Say it with me "Bush and Blair, the UK and the USA are not criminals!!!" Simple as and no amount of foot stomping will make it so.
What do you think a war criminal actually is?
Fuck me, what could be the next stunning revelation, 'Bears shit in woods'?
I get the impression (and I'm not the only one judging by the reactions of countless people) that Blair is suggesting the opinion of mankind, and in particular the British electorate, doesn't really count because the ultimate decider of what is right or wrong is God.
That would be a position completely incompatible with someone who is in power. It's ignorant, patronising and insulting to just about everybody from relatives of dead soldiers to the voting public to atheists to Christians themselves.
And look: it gets even better:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4772142.stm
So we have the President of the most powerful nation in the world saying God talks to him and tells him to invade countries left and right, and our very own Prime Minister asking God to intervene and give him a sign on what to do (perhaps he was jelaous that the Good Lord talks to Bush but not to him).
I'm not impressed as an atheist, but if I were a Christian I'd be impressed even less.