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Govt to ask why nobody votes

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So, the Electoral Commission's being called in by the government. Why? Apparently, it's to "probe" them about why turnout at elections is so low, and why nobody trusts the democratic process any more.

Well, let me save them the time and money, and give them some answers. I suggest it is because, as a Government, you are a bunch of lying little cunts. You lied to get us into a war with Iraq. You took the most serious decision a country has to make, and lied to get us into a grubby little war. You've dragged us kicking and screaming into the war on terrorism. You've made the country a more dangerous place. You've failed to deliver on your promises on education, the NHS, transport or on the welfare state. You're all liars, every single one of you.

As for you Tories, here's some words. You deliberately conceited with this government in the lies they told to get us into Iraq. Your leader has got no political principles or policies whatsoever. You have no radical ideas. You offer exactly the same as this government does. LibDems? You're just a third party. You barely register when it comes to making policy. You're all too busy fighting amongst yourselves on who'll be the next leader.

And as for the Electoral Commission themselves, you did nothing to stop ministers from giving us an utterly useless and fraud-riddled postal voting system. You refuse to propose any reform of a system where Tories got more votes than Labour at the 2005 General Election, yet Labour still romps home with a majority. You, quite simply, haven't got the teeth or the backbone to do anything about it.

OK, rant over. Anyone want to add something, or do you disagree with me?
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think they are calling the electoral commission in to help them find a solution, they probly know everything you just mentioned anyway
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    The reason no-one votes is because the media has such a hold over us, they dumb us down so much, half or more now, of the population are media controlled drones.

    As such, they bear little interest in politics, more concerned with Eastenders or Big Celebrity get me out of here or whatever.

    Sad state we're in, it's nearly too late too.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The reason I don't vote and never did, it's cos at the end it doesn't change much. But I believe government are not necessary anymore and should be removed so...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I vote! have done since i was 17! not that it makes a difference in Leeds. Fucking Labour usually win!

    I say down with Democracy!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    if you breath in and out you know why less and less people are interested.

    everyone knows!

    if the government are asking ...they are looking to see how soft we are.

    they are turning the screws so a little bit of market research will obviously pinpoint where the next shackle will best go.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    subject13 wrote:
    I vote! have done since i was 17! not that it makes a difference in Leeds. Fucking Labour usually win!

    I say down with Democracy!

    Except isn't Leeds city council a Lib-Tory coalition - so sometimes Labour doesn't win.
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    I am going to vote. Fuck knows who for, must see who's running and which of them has good policies.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    Sad state we're in, it's nearly too late too.

    I agree completely, if I don't laugh I'll cry.

    I always vote, even though it's a case of voting for the best of a truly terrible bunch. If I didn't exercise my right to vote, I wouldn't have the brass neck to debate, discuss and complain about political issues.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    I agree completely, if I don't laugh I'll cry.

    I always vote, even though it's a case of voting for the best of a truly terrible bunch. If I didn't exercise my right to vote, I wouldn't have the brass neck to debate, discuss and complain about political issues.
    but keep your eye on the ball ...the right not to ...is far more important.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I suppose people don't vote because they don't like any of the fuckers.

    I vote to get these buggers out, and hopefully someone decent in.
    Not that any of them are decent (they're all politicians), but I'm sick to fucking death of the current ones and this "rule by fear of terrorism" bollocks.

    As soon as I get some money, I'm out of this scummy fucking labour area anyway.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I suppose people don't vote because they don't like any of the fuckers.

    I vote to get these buggers out, and hopefully someone decent in.
    Not that any of them are decent (they're all politicians), but I'm sick to fucking death of the current ones and this "rule by fear of terrorism" bollocks.

    As soon as I get some money, I'm out of this scummy fucking labour area anyway.
    not voting as in refusing to ...could be such a powerful thing.
    they are already ...thinking ...abiut how THEY deal with it.
    live with it ...use it.
    it could be a very tong political weapon against all western democracies but ...a very two edged weapon/
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think a fair few non-voters are actually just too bloody bone idle to vote, and it's not a conscious or political decision not to vote at all. I think just sitting on your arse and not voting is pointless and insulting, it's not as if the government magically know you're unhappy with their policies. Better to send in a spoiled ballot paper, surely.

    It's essentially a big "fuck you" to the men and women who fought for emancipation. moroccan roll you make an excellent point, though...what they battled tooth and nail for was democracy and the right to vote, not the compulsion.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    briggi wrote:
    I think a fair few non-voters are actually just too bloody bone idle to vote, all. Better to send in a spoiled ballot paper, surely.

    .
    for sure.
    the spoilt paper party could maybe overtake the raving loons.

    it's worth thinking about ...

    there realy are more and more people though ...who are defiantly standing down from what they see as a farce.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No matter who wins the election the government always gets in.

    But having said that a few of them are decent, I like Mark Oaten, but it seems being a sexual deviant is a bar to high office for Lib Dems, it worked well for the Tories for years.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it's apathy that stops people from voting. Labour are moving to the right (in my opinion) and have abandoned some of the ideas that originally mirrored socialism, thus abandoning the people who need support the most. The Tories... Have, for better words no real identity. They are political chameleans who change to suit what's popular.

    I don't think either of the three major parties are true to what they are supposed to be. The Green partyI have a soft spot for but they won't get enough votes... RESPECT personally I wouldn't trust as they're basically the SWP trying to get Muslim and environmentalist votes (Mr Galloway a true socialist... won't accept a working man's wage to do his job... tut).

    It's sad really...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NQA wrote:
    Except isn't Leeds city council a Lib-Tory coalition - so sometimes Labour doesn't win.

    Please the council here was supposedly going to be a Tory bastion, but Lib-Dems and weak Torries have left it nothing but a gutless and very corrupt council. Ergo...Labour win again through its opponents failures.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The reason i'm hesitant to vote is because I don't class choosing the candidate you disagree with the least a real choice.

    Also, if i'd voted for any MP that turned out to be in favour of the Iraq war then there's blood on my hands too. I'm not prepared to have that on my conscience.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't understand why some people just decide not to vote as it 'won't make a difference' as to who gets into power. It is these people themselves that are causing this situation to unfold, becasue if these people did vote, chances are that the party that usually wins in their constituency wouldn't win - it would be a more level playing field.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sniper666 wrote:
    I don't understand why some people just decide not to vote as it 'won't make a difference' as to who gets into power. It is these people themselves that are causing this situation to unfold, becasue if these people did vote, chances are that the party that usually wins in their constituency wouldn't win - it would be a more level playing field.

    You're making the assumption that people don't vote because they don't feel it'll make a difference. I think a lot of people don't vote because they don't like putting their name against the least deceitful piece of shit standing.

    The whole "if you don't vote you don't have a right to complain" stance is cod shit as far as I’m concerned. It's a simplistic view that is used to consistently validate the atrocities being committed in our names. If you fundamentally disagree with the way the system works or don’t feel that anyone is sufficiently representative of your views then why the fuck should you put you name against them?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You're making the assumption that people don't vote because they don't feel it'll make a difference. I think a lot of people don't vote because they don't like putting their name against the least deceitful piece of shit standing.

    The whole "if you don't vote you don't have a right to complain" stance is cod shit as far as I’m concerned. It's a simplistic view that is used to consistently validate the atrocities being committed in our names. If you fundamentally disagree with the way the system works or don’t feel that anyone is sufficiently representative of your views then why the fuck should you put you name against them?
    yesa something likke that,
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yesa something likke that,

    Been on the Sherry tonight Rolly? :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    1) It doesn't matter who we elect, the government always get in.

    2) Unless you live in around one of a hundred seats, it doesn't matter how you vote, the usual candidate is going to be returned.

    That said, I have attended all but one poll since I was old enough to vote (I missed a local election due to an "emergency" at work")
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    BUT I HAVE TO FINISH WATCHING POP IDOL FIRST! AND I NEED TO KNOW HOW SO-AND-SO WILL DEAL WITH HIS PROBLEM IN EASTENDERS!
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  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    Cain wrote:
    BUT I HAVE TO FINISH WATCHING POP IDOL FIRST! AND I NEED TO KNOW HOW SO-AND-SO WILL DEAL WITH HIS PROBLEM IN EASTENDERS!
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    Summed up in one :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The Free Market demanded it.
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