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Bush-Blair secret deal revealed
BillieTheBot
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I want you all to think of weeks before the start of the Iraq war. I want you to remember Bush and specially Tony Blair, with his big toothed smile/ worried statesman look (choose as applicable), telling everyone in the 4-6 weeks before the war began how war "was the last thing [they] wanted" and how all diplomatic avenues would be exhausted before contemplating the use of force.
Now read this:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html
I want to ask everyone, but especially those who supported and still support the war, what they think of those two fucking liars. Can anyone justify such appalling hypocritical spectacle? Daily press conferences to claim they were men of peace and that they would only use force as a last resort, when they had already set the date nearly two months in advance regardless of whether any WMDs were found... Talking of obtaining a second UN resolution as "insurance", specially against "the Arabs"... Thinking of painting US military planes in UN colours and hope that Saddam will shoot one down...
Can anyone be any more of a twunt? :mad:
I must say, I've always thought Bush was a ****. But in view of the latest revelations, I am now starting to see Tony Blair as an even bigger **** than Bush is.
So, to war supporters past and present? Can you justify this?
Now read this:
Tony Blair told President George Bush that he was "solidly" behind US plans to invade Iraq before he sought advice about the invasion's legality and despite the absence of a second UN resolution, according to a new account of the build-up to the war published today.
A memo of a two-hour meeting between the two leaders at the White House on January 31 2003 - nearly two months before the invasion - reveals that Mr Bush made it clear the US intended to invade whether or not there was a second UN resolution and even if UN inspectors found no evidence of a banned Iraqi weapons programme.
[...]Mr Bush told Mr Blair that the US was so worried about the failure to find hard evidence against Saddam that it thought of "flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft planes with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours". Mr Bush added: "If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach [of UN resolutions]".
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html
I want to ask everyone, but especially those who supported and still support the war, what they think of those two fucking liars. Can anyone justify such appalling hypocritical spectacle? Daily press conferences to claim they were men of peace and that they would only use force as a last resort, when they had already set the date nearly two months in advance regardless of whether any WMDs were found... Talking of obtaining a second UN resolution as "insurance", specially against "the Arabs"... Thinking of painting US military planes in UN colours and hope that Saddam will shoot one down...
Can anyone be any more of a twunt? :mad:
I must say, I've always thought Bush was a ****. But in view of the latest revelations, I am now starting to see Tony Blair as an even bigger **** than Bush is.
So, to war supporters past and present? Can you justify this?
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It does prove the old saying right, two men can have a secret deal, as long as one is dead.
Is this news?
For that, he should resign immediately.
And even though the word 'liar' is forbidden in the House of Commons, MPs should now be able to routinetly use it on Blair without any consequences.
Since then, I have been doing some of my own research into this. We have seen in the press that the claims made by Bush & Lapdog were not true. We have seen the extent of their lies, and the way the useless Tories collaborated in these lies. We have seen Iraq turn into a bloodbath.
No, there is no justification for any of this. There is no justification for the lies they told. My trust in politicians has completely collapsed as a result. When the next Prime Minister says there is a country producing dangerous weapons, will the people of the United Kingdom believe him/her?
This war was the biggest foreign policy mistake since Vietnam, and I regret more and more every day that I initally supported this mad folly. The point of these rules is to show the integrity and dignity of our politicians. Trouble is, such values do not apply to Tony Blair. The Labour Party remains lazily compliant on this issue, the Tories are damaged goods thanks to their stupid support for the war, and the LibDems cannot be taken seriously at the moment. Who will speak out for the people of this country, who believe we have been led into a bloodbath?
I'm not sure its as clear cut as they are making out;
"He is quoted as saying he was "solidly with the president and ready to do whatever it took to disarm Saddam"."
Which they say means that he has definately decided to go to war, but does it?
I may die of shock. :rolleyes:
Dont ask questions like that to Klintock, in his world everything is quite different to how the rest of us see it.
Yes it is important, but no, no one does.
Its interesting that for you it was the War which made you realise they lie, you've got a lot to learn before you start your course.
Speech -
"Freedom, dignity, social justice, fairer more equal society blah blah blah"
Reality -
Do what they say, pay them what they demand, when they demand it or get threatened with jail, get kidnapped if you still refuse, what you have worked for gets forcibly taken from you and you get put in a cage. No one is presumed innocent in a tax court or any other court where the "state" stands to gain.
Every time you deal with anyone from the state, they are offering either money obtained through threats or just straight threats. If you accept money from them, it has been obtained through threats or actual violence.
When TB stands up and says "education, education, education" what he really is saying is "I will rob your neighbours for you, to teach your children things I want them to accept". Why do you think you have such a hard time dealing with the fact that there are no countries?
Governments do not open lemonade stands to fund what they do. They take it by force or threats of force.
The whole of political language is designed to hide this simple fact. The "benefits" they offer are just PR to help hide that fact.
Sorry, imagination carried me away there...
To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished.
It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first world of compliant, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality."
P.J. Proudhon.
Hey, when you're being nuked by non-existent WMD missiles, what's 5 mins????
I don’t see any significance of this Aladdin. Bush and Blair were both being pragmatic recognising realistically the best approach we could take towards Saddam. To be honest I’d be surprised if Blair wasn’t “solidly” behind US plans to invade Iraq prior to considering legal formalities; indeed for those of us that support the significance of the special relationship Blair’s support for our close friendship with the Untied States is reassuring. There's an article you might enjoy here btw Aladdin.
And on a side note we can both be grateful for a continuation of Britain’s close friendship with its greatest ally the United States under the next Conservative government when David Cameron becomes Prime Minister.
Anyone who has but the faintest trace of decency and sense of right and wrong should be repulsed by that pair of lying, cheating, murdering subhuman war criminals, regardless of whether they thought about the war itself.
that sadly is exactly what these guy knew would happen.
it didn't matter how many people were blown to bits in northern ireland after a couple of yers.
the powers that be know ...fashion binge drinking big brother east enders and having a holiday are far more important to the masses.
sadly ...aladdins rightous indignation is how everyone should be felling and reacting ...except klint of course ...the reality is ...few realy give a shit.