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My criminal masterplan

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
Its completely ethical, based on conning criminals/conmen. Say, if someone was selling a copied CD on ebay, you bought it, you knew it was copied, then demanded a refund and said you werent going to send the CD back. You get a free CD, and they either refund you or you tell ebay / the police?

I'll then just stash it away never to see it agani. Same could be done with anything dodgy I reckon, for tonnes of free stuff. Might have a go at some point and see what happens.

- Or even better, buy a version of photoshop, then when its not real, demand a real version as thats what you agreed to buy, then if they send you a real one, sell it on amazon or something yourself for a garunteed markup :D

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surely, that would only work if they had said on the auction that it was an original CD - and then you received a copy.

    Sounds like you have too much time on your hands Shyboy.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sounds like you have too much time on your hands Shyboy.
    :yes:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When it works, let me know!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ADOBE-PHOTOSHOP-CS2-FULL-PRODUCT-FOR-WINDOWS_W0QQitemZ7213159679QQcategoryZ51344QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Looky there. Now, its pretty illegal to sell unlicenced software. They say they're selling it with a key, obviously from a keygen. Since its so ludicrously non-legal, then when you say its not a legal copy you want your money back or you report them to ebay (in the most casual way possible) they cant refuse! Its not blackmail, its consumer rights :D im a genius!

    And yes I have too much time on my hands. By moneyspinning Ive got an offer to get a bike thats worth £800 for £400, by buying it off a guy at dealer prices because the dealer didnt want it, but he says he'll be the middleman for me and is just a nice guy so he wont take any money / commision. However, think its too far away so I wont bother :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not once there does it use the words 'official', 'authentic' or 'genuine'. And that's what they'll use as a comeback if you report them.

    Hardly worth your time and effort, to be honest.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not once there does it use the words 'official', 'authentic' or 'genuine'. And that's what they'll use as a comeback if you report them.

    Hardly worth your time and effort, to be honest.

    It doesnt matter if they're selling unlicenced (hence illegal) CDs. Its against the rules. Their feedback has members saying theyve received illegal copies already, so I doubt he (or she) wants the back feedback. And once your banned off ebay, you're banned for life. My mate got banned :p and hes tried to sign up several times with different names, credit cards, and the like but ebay knows its him every time!

    And its not that im actually trying to scam them (although thats what the rest of the thread implies), im just wondering if I would get away with it. I dont actually want photoshop :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I dont actually want photoshop :p
    I do :p. You could buy it, try your theory, and then send me Photoshop ;p.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its completely ethical, based on conning criminals/conmen. Say, if someone was selling a copied CD on ebay, you bought it, you knew it was copied, then demanded a refund and said you werent going to send the CD back. You get a free CD, and they either refund you or you tell ebay / the police?

    I'll then just stash it away never to see it agani. Same could be done with anything dodgy I reckon, for tonnes of free stuff. Might have a go at some point and see what happens.

    - Or even better, buy a version of photoshop, then when its not real, demand a real version as thats what you agreed to buy, then if they send you a real one, sell it on amazon or something yourself for a garunteed markup :D

    Did you watch Ransom last night by any chance?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:
    Did you watch Ransom last night by any chance?

    No, i think ive seen it before though. Is it a film with john travolta in? I was actually thinking when i was typing it, it did sound a bit inspired by the TV series "Hustle". At the mo Im just really keen on working out ways to get / keep money, recently realising how much money we all waste!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, i think ive seen it before though. Is it a film with john travolta in? I was actually thinking when i was typing it, it did sound a bit inspired by the TV series "Hustle". At the mo Im just really keen on working out ways to get / keep money, recently realising how much money we all waste!!

    Nah, it's Mel Gibson. Watched it a few months ago and thought the mind games might've been the inspiration...

    Try www.totse.com for ideas. A lot of them are dodgy, but there are some legitimate monetary ploys on there if i remember correctly.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:
    Nah, it's Mel Gibson. Watched it a few months ago and thought the mind games might've been the inspiration...

    Try www.totse.com for ideas. A lot of them are dodgy, but there are some legitimate monetary ploys on there if i remember correctly.

    Thats who I meant :p Im not great with names hehe.

    Wil check that site out, so far just been looking at www.moneysavingexpert.co.uk, which doesn't really have scams on there apart from the few tip offs (like earn £1 gift coupons for buying things that cost less than £1!)
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Stalin's Organist Posts: 13,327
    Woo for totse!

    If this works, WOO! Good scheme.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    surely a refund means you have to give back what you bought as well, correct? so i hate to say it but the plan therefor is faulty.

    theres the subtlety though - dont send it back. again, i dont know the scheme will work or not so i'll just have to see
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Bit of a downside to your plan.. Whoever sends the CD will have your address and if it was me you'd ripped off/threatened, i'd be pretty pissed off!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote:
    Bit of a downside to your plan.. Whoever sends the CD will have your address and if it was me you'd ripped off/threatened, i'd be pretty pissed off!

    They can come mug me at PO BOX 67, Leicester, etc. :razz:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    theres the subtlety though - dont send it back. again, i dont know the scheme will work or not so i'll just have to see
    shelve it mate.
    your not ...your not going to make the big time ...honest.
    it isn't a master plan ok?
    it isn't even a plan.
    it's no big deal ...
    it's you being mishievious ...thats all.
    you might think you have discovered that you have a criminal mind ...you haven't.
    your just chuffed that you think you have discovered the bright lights of being naughty ...you haven't.

    now calm down and and have a biscuit and a glass of milk.

    phew! another young man saved from a life of crime and sex and parties and easy money.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    shelve it mate.
    your not ...your not going to make the big time ...honest.
    it isn't a master plan ok?
    it isn't even a plan.
    it's no big deal ...
    it's you being mishievious ...thats all.
    you might think you have discovered that you have a criminal mind ...you haven't.
    your just chuffed that you think you have discovered the bright lights of being naughty ...you haven't.

    now calm down and and have a biscuit and a glass of milk.

    phew! another young man saved from a life of crime and sex and parties and easy money.

    I want a glass of milk :( but there isnt any at college.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    shelve it mate.
    your not ...your not going to make the big time ...honest.
    it isn't a master plan ok?
    it isn't even a plan.
    it's no big deal ...
    it's you being mishievious ...thats all.
    you might think you have discovered that you have a criminal mind ...you haven't.
    your just chuffed that you think you have discovered the bright lights of being naughty ...you haven't.

    now calm down and and have a biscuit and a glass of milk.

    phew! another young man saved from a life of crime and sex and parties and easy money.

    :lol:

    I'm sorry Shyboy, but your criminal masterplan made me think of nothing quite so much as Pinky and the Brain. :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Miffy wrote:
    :lol:

    I'm sorry Shyboy, but your criminal masterplan made me think of nothing quite so much as Pinky and the Brain. :D

    Well in the long run world domination is the plan ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's a good way to get people to think you're a bastard, that's for sure.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    crime was so much easier before computor power arrived ...i mean ...it must almost be friggin impossible to nick yourself a chicken from the supermarket these days.

    in the seventies before the banks were linked ...
    open a business account with a grand ...over three months add money on a regular basis and then hit the bank for loans and overdraft facilities.
    you then move around four or five grand to the next bank round the corner for your new bizz account.
    you do the same again and again ...you ended up withacounts all over the place.
    the ones who got in trouble for it are the ones who used false names.
    using your correct name and adress meant you were breaking no laws ...so no police could come after you ...after three years of dodging them the debt would be wiped out.
    you got to spend twenty five thiry grand of someonelses money.
    it was so easy back then.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Or just just download them off limewire or bittorrent!
    :lol:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They can come mug me at PO BOX 67, Leicester, etc. :razz:

    PO Boxes ain't anonymous ;)

    Unfortunately :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:
    PO Boxes ain't anonymous ;)

    Unfortunately :D

    Dont they protect your real address either? :o:(

    I was planning on sending letters to lots of people complaining to try and get free or cheap stuff.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dont they protect your real address either? :o:(

    I was planning on sending letters to lots of people complaining to try and get free or cheap stuff.

    I'm pretty sure all someone needs to do is ask the post office who's box it is and they're legally obliged to disclose the info.

    You could use PayPal for ebay?
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