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This is NOT a gun thread

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
The thread which this originally came from was closed before I had chance to respond. Now I'm <STRONG>not</STRONG> going to get into an argument about guns, because it has all been said before. No, what I am interested in is the post, and the motivation from the post...
Originally posted by Thanatos...AGAIN
<STRONG>I pasted a clip w/o comment from one of your news sources.</STRONG>

The post in question was made because of its content, because it backed a position you hold and because it was written by a UK reporter.

None of these makes it correct, and my response about the crime stats was to show that the reporter obviosuly hadn't done his research. He claimed that the US buglary rate was significantly lower than the UKs becuase of guns and the only place where there was gun control had high burglary rates. Now regardless of the gun element, this plainly isn;t the case becuase the percapita rate is approx. the same and is falling in both countries.

My assertion was that it was an ireelevant post, for that reason. Not becuase I disagreed with it.

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Perhaps you would care to refute this one???

"The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their posession any swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other type of arms. The posession of these elements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to permit uprising. Therefore, the heads of provinces, official agents, and deputies are ordered to collect all weapons mentioned above and turn them over to the government."
-- Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun, August 29, 1558
[Stephen R. Turnbull, The Samurai: A Military History (New York: Macmillan, 1977; reprinted by the University of Hawaii Press, 1996), n. 59]</STRONG>

1558? In 450 years do you think that we may have evolved a little?

Again regardless of whether guns are good/bad, I presume that even though you are armed, you pay taxes like everyone else?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm glad this isn't about guns...I'd much rather talk about lovely commie block ladies...best kept secret of the cold war.

    Talk about something dangerous...women, followed by more women...truly dangerous!

    Couldn't resist a bit of funning...LOL!
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just found this too...tell me, Is this MP playing the 'race card' or just providing a distraction from something important?
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=510348&in_review_text_id=473638

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>Just found this too...tell me, Is this MP playing the 'race card' or just providing a distraction from something important?
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=510348&in _review_text_id=473638

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    Not sure where you got the race-card idea. What's the distraction, and what is the 'something important'?

    Is it not a valid use of MPs time? Should they not want to help prevent gun-crime in the capital?

    What's your point?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The point is she's not helping...and is playing a race card.

    More law never helped anything or anyone...you already have so many laws that can't be enforced that your society can accurately be described as disfunctional.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>The point is she's not helping...and is playing a race card.
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    She's black - still got that smug expression on your face?
    <STRONG>More law never helped anything or anyone...you already have so many laws that can't be enforced that your society can accurately be described as disfunctional.

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    IYHO.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish, that was my point...of course she's black...or maybe we could start calling it 'pigment challenged' or such. Anyway, she's black and she is playing the race card...!
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>Kentish, that was my point...of course she's black...or maybe we could start calling it 'pigment challenged' or such. Anyway, she's black and she is playing the race card...!
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    Simon Hughes is white.

    Do you actually have point to make, or are you racist?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kentish, go to something relevant...but please, not the old..."are you a racist?" crap!

    I don't even know what your defination of a racist is...and considering that you don't know what race(s) I am it becomes another silly put down question.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Diesel:
    <STRONG>Kentish, go to something relevant...</STRONG>
    Ditto that.
    Did you actually have a point to make?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not really, I was looking for yours!

    (thie is not a gun thread...maybe we could make it one so all interest isn't lost...nah, why bother?)
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Diesel, what the hell are going on about...

    You perplex me
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, Toadborg! This is not a gun thread so I suppose it is everything else...yes?

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