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Holocaust: could it ever happen again
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Do you people out there think that anything like the Holocaust could ever happen again?
I think that it is very possible that any country (including the western world) could again feel that much hatred against another group of people.
At the moment we think that it is impossible for anything like it to happen in our country because we believe that the majority of the population our tolarent, understanding people. Just look at last years race riots and how so many people use asylum seeker for every problem we have.
Someone who is skilled enough will be able to exploit this and turn a nation against a group of people within that nation.
I'm not saying that it could be as big as as that Holocaust, but some thing terrible will happen in the future.
I think that it is very possible that any country (including the western world) could again feel that much hatred against another group of people.
At the moment we think that it is impossible for anything like it to happen in our country because we believe that the majority of the population our tolarent, understanding people. Just look at last years race riots and how so many people use asylum seeker for every problem we have.
Someone who is skilled enough will be able to exploit this and turn a nation against a group of people within that nation.
I'm not saying that it could be as big as as that Holocaust, but some thing terrible will happen in the future.
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But I think society has changed- people are more prone to be individuals and think for themselves than in the past. Differences are recognised and becoming more accepted in this postmodern age.
The people with money and power are not like this on the whole.
They may not use gas chambers - lopping children's hands off is just one of the favoured methods of the 'modern' ethnic cleanser (e.g. in Rwanda) - but that shouldn't downplay the significance. The sense of fear is just the same to the victims.
It could be argued, therefore, that had WW2 never happened, the Holocaust would never have become a weapon of propaganda, used to villify the Nazis by the Allies. Thus it could have gone largely unnoticed, as it did in Rwanda and the Balkans. Afterall, few people knew the situation facing ethnic Albanians in Kosovo before the "war" there waged by the West. Unfortunately, we don't seem to think that ethnic cleansing alone is an issue worthy of great discussion.
If you look at pre-Hitler Germany you will see that it wasn't that much different to our own society.
It was seen as tolerent, fair and democratic. The only problem was a minority of racist extreamists who got into power by playing on the fears of people and by using bullying tactics.
It is very possible that the same thing could happen again.
Unfortunately these types of people can only get a foothold if the fears and problems are already present in the population.
Personally I think Another is right with this one. I can all too easily envisage something such as the Nazi party happening again..Maybe even here in the UK. It would take a lot but I could see it happening all too easily.
That's what I thought. In the US there are several well organized groups that could easily overthrow the United States if they banded together. Most are God fearing citizens that only want the protection of themselves and the Constitution, but if need be they have the firepower to take down the largest super power in the world.
And they don't because???
Overthrowing the US government would leave said groups in a big pile of shit. No services, no food supply, no defence.
The thing I have always been reminded of
whenever mentioning the subject is; "We may NEVER forget". And I think that as long as the Holocaust will be in peoples minds the same thing wont happen.
But unfortunately the Holocaust generation is dying out. People are busy with their own buisnesses, and whenever something goes wrong for society, we always try to find a new scapegoat.
I can't imagine anything as harsh as the Holocaust happening again, but I can definitely imagine a certain group of people getting followed, as the world looks today (as said before, we have examples of it already).
I see it as my responsobility never to forget, as respect to my grandparents and to the next generations.
What do you think can prevent such a thing?
It's human nature.
History is full of stories of people fucking other people over. Turks and the Armenians, Chinese and Koreans, Tamils and Sri Lankans, Americans and American Indians, Spanish and Aztecs, Catholics and Protestants, Europeans and Africans, etc....the list would be too long to write.
I think the real danger is saying that all of this is in our past. Humans hurt other humans, they've done it in the past and will do it in the future. Just look at the evidence. All over the world, in different cultures, religions, ethnicities, times, this is a common factor. There is no people or place that can claim they have never persecuted those who were different.
By not recognizing that this is a behavior that we are naturally inclined to do we are being extremely arrogant and risking something like this happening again.
The only way it wouldn't happen is with universal tolerance and abandonment of the "us versus them" mentality. Can you see that happening?
I think at some point we'll get there. Just not anytime soon.
Sorry to be so pessimistic. It's nice to see so many people who are optimistic about our future. Maybe you're right.