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Are civil partnerships for gay couples a good idea?
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(possibly should be in P&D, but because it is the the poll question, I've dropped it into anything goes. ETA: Ooops got a it heavy for anything goes)
I don't know how to answer this one. I'm for Civil Partnerships, but against it being restricted to gay couples.
I don't know how to answer this one. I'm for Civil Partnerships, but against it being restricted to gay couples.
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because they don't believe in segregation.
because they don't like the religious overtones of marriage.
because they don't want to take part in an instituiton that discriminates based on sexuality.
because they don't want to have their union ended in a couple of years time when on of them undergoes gender reassignment.
Why should your sex stop you from declaring a civil partnership with another person?
Why should same sex parters be ghettoised? because "gay marriage" is easier to understand; creates conservative uproar leading to increased newspaper sales; and damn it, gay people want to just "get married" like everyone else, not "register a civil partnership" ("sorry mate, I'm married" has a better ring to it than "sorry mate, I'm in a registered civil partnership")
Over here, if you don't want a religious marriage, you can have what's called a civil marriage. It's performed by a judge. Such a thing has existed since before I was born (I'm 20). Didn't anything like it exist over there until recently?
Though here people aren't allowed to be married to someone of the same sex (yet, I hope).
I think you're taking this a bit too seriously.
Marriage doesn't really have religious connotations these days, the amount of marriages that take place in receptions probably outnumbers the traditional church weddings.
And I don't think you're being "ghettoised" Traditionally, marriages take place between male-females, I think it's just an acknowledgement of the difference between same sex marriages and one's that aren't. And gays can get married, Elton John and his partner got married a few weeks ago, you can say you're married if you're gay all ya want, no one is stopping you.
you may see a lot of cut'n'paste in these links:
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The problem is the form of a registry office wedding follows that of a Christian wedding, so some people feel it is merely a secular copy of a religious thing - which they don't want.
now that's ambiguous
In case you didn't understand what I meant (I admit I didn't say it clearly), I said it's not allowed to happen, but I hope that in the future it will be.
those differences being? I've been saying it for the last decade, but when it comes to forms I'll stick with "cohabiting" for my marital status for the time being.
I just don't think it's fair that the straights still have to have that "excluding all others" bit.
Sorry
No offence, but as a straight bloke i'm hardly going to get a civil partnership rather than get married to fight the power or whatever...
No. In no way. Never. Not ever. Ridiculous idea. Madness. Idiocy. Etc
straight people have marriage?
why cant gay people have civil partnerships
I don't believe that straight couples should be allowed civil partnerships because then either marriage becomes superior to civil partnerships or the other way round. Either way one would become the "second class" option. If straight people could do both it then gay people should be able to as well.
To be fair, if I wanted to dedicate myself to a man legally and I could choose, I'd probably go with Civil Partnership because I'd want to make the statement that there's more to love than what's in somebody's pants... Well technically I'd have a handfasting but... -shrug-
I don't think people should be allowed religious "marriage" unless they are involved in the church by some degree.
as far as I can see it is limited to a share in the estate inthe event of the other cohabitees death
Although, I wonder whatever happened to the two couples in the states. Both couples had someone have a gender reassignment so there was one that was a male who was a female marrying a female and a male who was a female marrying a male (I can't exactly the gender of the roles involved, but that's the basic idea). If the judge ruled against one couple, it would set precedent for the other couple to get married.
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i should have lived with my housemates for another year, and cohabited with them
Poly relationships get quite tangled, surely having a legal framework would be a benefit?
Why the hell not?
The only problem is what if one wants to opt out?
god you sound like luby but shes more on the straight and narrow
they're a good idea, all registry office ceremonies should be called a civil partnerships imo with only churches etc having power to marry people