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kids aren't taught hawkings' stuff though, theres all kinds of factors like the 'shape' of the universe, we could prove it by building a super massive triangle and showings its deviation from 180 degrees internal angles total but we cant
problem is the mathematical side of physics is far ahead of the technology to measure and test it
yes why i'd rather kids werent taught at all, the non-god arguments are so complex in word form it'd be impossible for kids at school to hear a rational argument they'd understand
dogs cant understand relativity or quantum physics, or even maths, does that mean their god done it, nope? it means they just dont know
Dogs have a god! oh my!? lol
who knows, they might, they might not, not for us to speculate
seriosuly though teaching a idea because it sounds nice is not what you do? theres already enough crap taught in science at schools
those crappy 8 dot and cross diagram only work for like 4 elements, as well as the basis of covalent bonds, and metallic bonding - they should have left the theoretical chemistry alone at school and taught things like pH and pKa instead and simple reactions
And were back..........They have completely took the fun out of science anyway! what ever happened to disecting (?) spelling a frog! animal right perhaps?? or when you would do cool stuff like find out your blood group! science is a blur in my memories....... so sad!
That's the nice thing about science, you can do things wiith it. And when you can't, you change what you are doing. If we were to scientifically test christianity, we could call one man "christ" and then neail him to a tree and see what happens.
When nothing other than death occurs, we dismiss it.
I love facts, me.
Chances are we don't either? What exactally do you mean by "soul"? Just curious... as we really don't seem to have one.
A soul is a non-physical non-observable thing.
That's like me saying a giagantic monset with 12 arms is behind you, it breaths fire, and could devour you at any moment. Oh, and by the way... there is no way for you to tell it is there. At all. Ever.
Look at the realist glow! lol
Well a soul is the immaterial part of a person; the actuating cause of an individual life, like a spirit........... do you believe in ghosts? its the essence of who we are, is it not? our bodies are simply temples, when we die we have no use for them anymore obviously but our soul lives on...........
I won't point out the flaws, it probably been done before (many times, I do not doubt!). But interesting for you to hold such a position.
I feel that... how do you think the "soul" exists without body? Do you think mind and soul are the same thing? I just don't think there is much evidence for it. I want to beleive something, thanks to my Christian upbringing, but I fail to see any real reason too. Ghosts, can be easily explained in other terms than someones "soul", and I beleive, when someone REALLY researches, we will find it is probably more time echoes or dimension overlap, or something completley mad suchas.
"We", I beleive, are beings that gain experience and are shaped by the changing of our brain. Also, your above point... life is not "pointless" because you are not an immortal soul. Life has a point, with or without it. It is to reproduce, and to experience what you can, while you can, and be good and kind to your fellow man, who is hopefully trying to do the same.
Anyway, good move...fuck those Americans have their heads up their hole half the time.
That is quite deep for a 17 year old.......i dont have time to debate you on the soul thing except that ghosts are lost souls........i feel anyway, however, you are right that one of our purposes is to reproduce but answer me this by being kind to your fellow man of whom we hope will do the same.... what do you gain from that and why would you chose to do that, because you have a choice perhaps, free will........ this is something god has given us and we choose how we want to lead our lives and just maybe the way we do live and the choices we make will therefore decide our fate......even if it means having a date with death
Take care Will! he he
I got to here and knew there was no point reading on.
Lost souls? What are you on about, it's like the Catholic Church saying non-baptized children go to limbo or if you don't repent your sins you'll go to Purgatory. Nonsense.
Who or what created them is another matter though...
What the fuck are you rambling on about now. Of course I think the Koran is a load of shite. What makes you think I would excuse it?
Easy.
The human brain is a creation of intelligent DNA to increase the rate of evolution.
Design > evolution.
People who cant accept death perhaps or those that dont want to die, or that they dont even realise they are dead!!! Obviously too deep for your simple brain!
Not realise that you're dead. Interesting concept.
I usually don't realise that I've forgotten to put the dishwasher on, or something.
I think you've forgotten to take your tablets today mate!
you've been drink'n too eh?
You gain alot be being a good person - your qaulity of life improves, because you have a good network of reinds and people who like you. You are living a much fuller life than someone who acts like a bastard to everyone - they end up with other bastards and such folk. You can probably see how being with good people is better than not. It would lead to your life being much fuller.
I don't claim to know what happens after death, myself... I just think... it's going to be the thing i'll find out, when I die. Should be interesting. If their is a God, I can live safe in the knowledge that, I have lead a good life, and he shall be pleased. Unless he is an evil god. Then we're all fucked, anyway.
You take care too, Nameless one.
Edit: Ooh, I just thought... Lost Souls?
Aye, but postulating over the origins of existence is suited to a philosophy/religious setting, as opposed to actual science - how can intelligent design be taught as science when it's an unproven hypothesis? You can't actually teach it as science - it should be mentioned as part of science to cover the entire picture and discussed properly as part of philosophy/religious education.
That's the correct and logical balance.
Because you don't support bombing the Middle East.
That's how laughable his intellectual faculties are.
But I wasnt suggesting that we do teach ID to kids, I was just pointing out to Aladdin that you can not totally divorce the idea of a 'creator' or creating force from science, however much he would like to dismiss anyone who believes in a god as a nut.
yeh it's more of a philosophical question, but it's not even a scientific theory - so shouldn't be taught in schools in science classes, i'm happy to admit people have their own views on things, BUT evolution as people think 'survival of the fittest' isn't the only idea about how things evolve over time - however the intelligent design promoters tend to use the lack of proof argument to justify their 'IDEA' just as creationists do, and many ID books used to refer to creationism loads, then relabelled it intelligent design afterwards......
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8498
and wow there's some judges with some sense of logic
and there's some things on its reckon humans evolved, which actually involved some real study
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/evolution/dn7539
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/evolution/mg18524875.200
and personally i have no idea where or what we come from, but i think aliens planted life on this planet