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nope was removed also
Arson in dockyards was removed way back in the 70's.
I should point out that Japan is on that list, they are relatively civilised.
I noticed that myself, probably the most civilised country in the world actually.
Except of course they dont really have democracy and their suicide rate is really high. Its a very mixed up country.
Their crime rate is really low though. That's what I meant by civilised.
Except when one actually considers the pervasive influence and activities of the Yakuza throughout Japanese society and industry (extending its reach into all of Japan's foreign markets).
That it happens to be an accepted status quo makes it no less a criminally complicity social structure.
But they just default on loans and do white collar crime, they arent real criminals.
Whats Japan's bad debt these days? Trillions of Yen isnt it?
Im curious as to precisely what your definition of "real criminals" might be?
I wasnt being entirely serious, it is quite a different set up though compared to other Western countries.
Singapore executes, on average, 40 people a year, more than any other country in the world - civilised?
The UAE still has public beheadings - civilised?
Taiwan/Malaysia - civilised?
Granted, I did overlook Japan but I can't find anything about when their last execution was so I can't back it up or refute it.
Israel is I guess a developed country but human rights abuses tend to put that affirmation in some doubt.
Israel doesn't have the death penalty. It's only ever executed one person; Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann. I won't even respond to the last sentence of your post.
Are you saying that England pre 1964 was not civilised because we had the death penalty? We were the architects of modern civilisation.
You're really pushing it there.
Civilisation began with the Sumerians and people like that. England is merely a link in the chain.
What living-in-a-bush-o'meter scale did you use to form those opinions?
Israel isnt even listed under the "defacto ban of executions". Only for non-normal crimes. hah.
The emphasis should be on my former statement; the second is an undeniable historical fact. I want someone to explain how England was not civilised until 1964 because we had the death penalty.
everywhere had the death penalty at one time ...and yes england and its empire are responsible for modern times and politics to a very large degree.
China?
We were the architects of what?
Me thinks theres one enormous racist assumption running through this little debate.
I agree with what Gandhi said when asked what he thought of "western civilisation"
:yes:
No, you convince yourself that racism is at work because it makes it easier to deal with my views. Just like an Elton John fan that calls you a homophobe if you think his music is crap, or a woman who screams "sexist" should you dare disagree with her. I am often told I just want to chain women to the kitchen sink, as always such witless rhetoric is a substitute for real debate.
No, I think the suggestion that so called 'western civilisation' is superior to other cultures is highly problematic.
"Western civilisation" has caused plenty of deaths and much starvation. If you're not suggesting that "modern civilisation" (ala white british stylee) is superior to other cultures, what are you saying?
I have said or hinted at nothing you have just claimed. Making things up as you go along are we? Do that alot?
we all know the terms are debatable but the relaity is ...yes england is responsible for much ...both good and bad.
or that just denies history.
So, what are you saying? What is it that we are the architects of?
Do you avoid direct questions often?