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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Its time to get over her.

    Oh, you think I view all women due to a previous relationship?

    Sorry mate, you'll have to try harder than that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, just a few seconds.



    Where the hell do you get that idea from?

    Very few men these days ONLY see women as objects of lust. Some do but they are certainly the minority. To suggest that lads' mags contribute to this in any significant way is truely to live on cloud cuckoo land.

    So, having a magazine at the checkout of Sainsburys with women presented on the cover as sexual objects purely to satisfy male sexual desire is a sign of a healthy society is it? You're fucked in the head mate.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh, you think I view all women due to a previous relationship?

    You appear to be bitter about something to do with women.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    "just laddish culture" - how do you think 90's lad culture came about? By accident? Or a product of social circumstances?

    And how did "girl power" culture come about?

    I think they both came about because of antagonism towards each other but it is not some malice way of thinking or anyone who conforms to lad culture is some evil cunt. Bit like "chavs", all talk no action.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    So, having a magazine at the checkout of Sainsburys with women presented on the cover as sexual objects purely to satisfy male sexual desire is a sign of a healthy society is it? You're fucked in the head mate.

    Well if that offends you so much, ask Sainsburys to move the magazines then....!

    "Purely to satisfy male sexual desire"?? Tell you what mate, YOU'RE the one who's serious fucked in the head. You need counselling to sort out these nasty issues you have with the evils in this nasty world which can so easily be attributed to these publications which order brainless men to view women as objects to beat and rape.

    Common sense 2, Blagsta nil as usual.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    And how did "girl power" culture come about?

    I don't know what you mean by "girl power", except for the Spice Girls.
    turlough wrote:
    I think they both came about because of antagonism towards each other but it is not some malice way of thinking or anyone who conforms to lad culture is some evil cunt.

    Where did I call anyone an "evil cunt"? :confused:
    turlough wrote:
    Bit like "chavs", all talk no action.

    Eh?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well if that offends you so much, ask Sainsburys to move the magazines then....!

    "Purely to satisfy male sexual desire"?? Tell you what mate, YOU'RE the one who's serious fucked in the head. You need councelling to sort out these nasty issues you have with the evils in this nasty world which can so easily be attributed to these publications which order brainless men to view women as objects to beat and rape.

    Common sense 2, Blagsta nil as usual.

    What on earth are you on about? Talk about a straw man argument.

    Twat.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    I don't know what you mean by "girl power", except for the Spice Girls.

    Where did I call anyone an "evil cunt"? :confused:

    Ok so all girls are angels who never bad mouth men of or perv over fit mens bodies either, and hasn't been also prevelent in the 90's to the current day. :rolleyes:

    You didn't but you're implying there's something wrong with men who buy these magazines and talk like a "lad" as if they're just dumb yobs. Sorry just my impression, clarify if you need to.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Ok so all girls are angels who never bad mouth men of or perv over fit mens bodies either, and hasn't been also prevelent in the 90's to the current day. :rolleyes:

    What are you on about now? Why are you attributing views to me that I haven't stated? Are you a mate of My Sacrifice?
    turlough wrote:
    You didn't but you're implying there's something wrong with men who buy these magazines and talk like a "lad" as if they're just dumb yobs. Sorry just my impression, clarify if you need to.

    No, I haven't said anything of the sort. Quote me.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    Why are you attributing views to me that I haven't stated?

    Possibly because you're pretty efficient at it yourself? For example.....
    Blagsta wrote:
    So, having a magazine at the checkout of Sainsburys with women presented on the cover as sexual objects purely to satisfy male sexual desire is a sign of a healthy society is it?

    I might have a cataract in one eye but I'm sure I can't see anything where I say anything about a 'healthy society'.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    What are you on about now? Why are you attributing views to me that I haven't stated? Are you a mate of My Sacrifice?

    No, I haven't said anything of the sort. Quote me.

    To be perfectly honest, I haven't got a clue what we're arguing about anymore. Can you go back to the last part of the thread that made sense and debate from there.

    ETA:Why the fuck would I be a mate with him for?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Possibly because you're pretty efficient at it yourself?



    I might have a cataract in one eye but I'm sure I can't see anything where I say anything about a 'healthy society'.

    This makes no sense.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    theres a reet load of bollox in this thread!
    a lot of it coming from the pc trendy attitudes of the moment.

    every society has had porn.
    there have always been drawings of naked women with exagerated bits.
    the nineties laddish culture is mostly in your imaginations ...put there of course by the media to make something ancient look like something modern.

    people don't half get hung up about none issuse.

    i.m glad most of you will never be law makers/rule makers.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    This makes no sense.

    I'm not really surprised.

    What an utter cock.

    /unsubscribing.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    To be perfectly honest, I haven't got a clue what we're arguing about anymore. Can you go back to the last part of the thread that made sense and debate from there.

    I think a definition of what I mean by "objectification" might be in order
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_objectification
    turlough wrote:
    ETA:Why the fuck would I be a mate with him for?

    I dunno, he's a weirdo Jesus freak. I was being sarcy anyway. :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not really surprised.

    What an utter cock.

    /unsubscribing.

    :lol:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    I think a definition of what I mean by "objectification" might be in order
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_objectification

    Oh yes I see now.

    Yes these magazines may objectify women sexually but my point is that it won't manifest itself into anything nastier so isn't that much of a problem.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    Oh yes I see now.

    Yes these magazines may objectify women sexually but my point is that it won't manifest itself into anything nastier so isn't that much of a problem.

    What it does do however, is feed into a general cultural view of human beings (especially women, but men too) as objects and not subjects. That ain't healthy IMO.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    So you see nothing wrong with presenting women as merely a pair of tits and a cunt?
    if thaats what YOU see in your political correctness and your ideas of social engineering then YOU are the one with issuse.
    always looking for bogeymen.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    if thaats what YOU see in your political correctness and your ideas of social engineering then YOU are the one with issuse.
    always looking for bogeymen.

    pissed again are you?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    pissed again are you?
    :rolleyes:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Supply and demand is all I need to say. That's probably where porn came from - People wanted it. Magasines that sexually objectifies woman will happen if people want it. Just gather enough opposition and you'd probably get it away.

    Porn though would probably always exist - which is a shame, as woman are more that a pair of tits and a cunt as Blagsta said.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what concerns me is blagstas view.
    if ...his communal way of living were ever to come about ...it is so clear that people like him would be following the latest trends in political thinking.
    trends usualy die.
    blag would have to travel a little to find a communal town that wished to live by his ideals.
    or ...manipulate and legislate ...
    freedom out the window.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So, we are saying that men are sexually starved by women?

    Or have I missed it again?

    We've said that men aren't getting what they really want and so have to go for faux porn for their thrills. Must be missing out on something. At the same time we are saying that women aren't totally thrilled with modern life neither. Hmmmmm.

    Why do men mention women's looks, have a feel etc?

    Because, sometimes, it works.

    Go out and ask every woman you meet for a fuck and after not too long you'll get one. Simple. Man fancies shag. It's weekend. He's drunk. He likes what he sees. He says so. He gets slapped.

    Being dim, he goes and does it again. And again. Eventually he gets laid.

    Next time he knows that he just has to approach enough to get sex. And that's all this is about. Our "soceities" rituals for finding a partner are horribly dishonest and broken. A vast male population exists for very good looking women, who, at the very attractive level could pick a different partner every few hours if they really wanted to until time fucked their looks. Few men get this level of choice.

    All sexual power resides with women, because they have most of the choice. To then moan about having a few piccies taken etc is just fucking bollocks. Cake and eat it time and not get fat is all that's wanted from the fairer sex and fair play to them, halfwits like Blagsta fall for it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DEAREST BLAG AND KERMY ....

    my two older sisters read a girls magazine in the sixties called ...'jackie' ...no sex no talk of drugs or alcohol ...no abortion advice etc etc ...this mag ws aimed at teenage girls ...i'd guess from the ages of 12 to 16.

    should all teenage girl mags go back to this kind of publication?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ...did the benny hill show or the carry on films have a detrimental effect on society?
    did it make men grope women in the workplace ...
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,269 Skive's The Limit
    Blagsta wrote:
    What it does do however, is feed into a general cultural view of human beings (especially women, but men too) as objects and not subjects. That ain't healthy IMO.

    It's not a cultural view, it's human nature.

    Us lads may like to look at big tits and a nice arse, it's just entertaining, same as with lap dancers. It doesn't mean a judge women soley upon whether they these features.

    You're reading into it far too much.
    Weekender Offender 
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what concerns me is blagstas view.
    if ...his communal way of living were ever to come about ...it is so clear that people like him would be following the latest trends in political thinking.
    trends usualy die.
    blag would have to travel a little to find a communal town that wished to live by his ideals.
    or ...manipulate and legislate ...
    freedom out the window.

    what on earth are you on about? See, this is why I made the "pissed" comment - you have a habit of posting on here late at night, picking out one of my posts completely out of context without following the whole debate and then slagging me based on you getting completely the wrong end of the stick.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DEAREST BLAG AND KERMY ....

    my two older sisters read a girls magazine in the sixties called ...'jackie' ...no sex no talk of drugs or alcohol ...no abortion advice etc etc ...this mag ws aimed at teenage girls ...i'd guess from the ages of 12 to 16.

    should all teenage girl mags go back to this kind of publication?

    What the fuck? :confused: Who was talking about mags for teenage girls?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    It's not a cultural view, it's human nature.

    Debateable.
    Skive wrote:
    Us lads may like to look at big tits and a nice arse,

    Yes, I do too.
    Skive wrote:
    it's just entertaining, same as with lap dancers. It doesn't mean a judge women soley upon whether they these features.

    You're reading into it far too much.

    You don't think that presenting women as objects feeds into the general patriarchal culture of low pay, shit conditions and abuse against women?
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