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And you think lads mags present some sort of subliminal messages that girls are mere objects...if I'm gawking at a half naked girl on a magazine page, I'm not thinking of how the female species is being presented and how I should treat them...it's just a bit of sleaze, people are capable of making their own decisions on women.
I sometimes flick through FHM at the barbers, That's all they have, but I cant see much wrong with it.
My sister hads loads of interesting books with titles such as "How to spot a bastard from his star-sign" etc.. :no:
I don't think that objectifying women and presenting them merely as objects for teenage boys to wank over is a particularly healthy state of affairs.
As much as they undermine women, they also undermine men. If a young man is repeatedly told that only one type of girlfriend is acceptable, and only one type of relationship is acceptable, then quite quickly the unrealistic fantasy becomes an unrealistic ambition. If you have unrealistic ambitions of what relationships are like, you're on a one-way road to depression and disullusionment.
You know, I never realised that I find beautiful women more attractive than ugly ones just because of the media. :rolleyes:
That said it's a bit hypocritical of me, as theres always a copy (bought by flatmate) on my bathroom floor to mindlessly flick through while relaxing on the throne.
What on earth are you on about?
I think that once you take your eyes of the page and look out of your window you can't help but see the world isn't like the one the magazines purport to. You see that every women isn't some perfect 10 air brushed beauty and that the interactions you have with people every day don't even nearly compare to the lifestyle image that is promoted in the mags.
I'm just trying to say just because lads look at mags that objectify women doesn't actually mean the lads are going to objectify them themselves.
Although, a lot do. Go to any town centre on a Friday or Saturday night. Talk to your female friends - all of mine have stories to tell of lads thinking its OK to grope them or make comments on how they look.
What its it that makes some men think that its OK to grope women without permission?
I already said, lad culture.
It'll pass I'm sure.
Lad culture which objectifies women.
It was happening a long time before the rise of "lad culture" in the 90's.
you sure its for relaxing on the throne? :rolleyes:
And girl power which demeans men, just a phase.
Are you trying to say there's a direct correlation between lads mags and women being groped without permission or something
Lads like to look at good looking semi naked/naked ladies, it's nice. Pin ups, page three, strippers etc are nothing new.
happens both ways - strangely people only complain when they dont find the person the best looking......
its wrong yes, but a slap sets most pervs off from my experience
So you've never seen a group of girls mouth off about how bad men are and saying all that "girl power" stuff.