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Do I need to? It's fairly obvious, but here goes - comparing generalising the police with generalising other groups (by which I take it you mean race) is not comparable for a couple of reasons.
(1) People choose to join the police
(2) The police actually fulfill a social and political role in our society
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Well according to the Politeia think tank they actually are thick
Thick bullies with virtually unlimited powers is what many people recognise them as.
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If it was obvious to me then i wouldn't have asked you to elaborate.
I didn't necessarily mean race. What about teachers for example, who also fill soical and political roles?
Of course not all the individuals are. But the whole ethos of the service appears to be about bullying people they don't like, either ex-cons or people of different sexualities and races.
The problem is that they are getting more and more power, and it is harder and harder for them to be brought to book. The 2003 CJA is far more terrifying that the 1994 version, and the Criminal Procedure Rules are something that Stalin would be proud of.
We aren't that bad yet. yet.
You should go and read them sometime.
I don't see people being locked up for staring at Tony in the wrong way?
The Conservatives are not dead? (Well, aside from election hopes.)
We are getting worse. But we are not as bad as it could be.
Have you actually read my earlier posts?
I want to avoid decending this thread into yet another curt exchange of non-views.
Ealier in the thread i was saying it seems acceptable for people to take such a grossly generalised view of the police force. It was put forward that they chose to be in the police force and that they serve both a social and political puropose. I just wondered whether it would be then fine to hold such generalised views on teachers for instance? They chose their profession and serve a social and politital end also.
a) the police are in a specially unique position- one of great power and open to abuse. No racial or working group compares.
b) it's not much of a 'generalisation' when almost everyone who has ever been arrested reports mistreatement/abuse of power while at the hands of the police. It does happen. Regularly.
No, it is not correct to generalise about individual teachers, just as it is not correct to generalise about individual coppers. However, it is possible to generalise about their roles as a whole (on a macro level if you like), but teachers aren't generally known for getting people put in jail.
wonderful people and priorities, felt like hitting them the homeless people weren't hassling anyone or doing anything wrong other than possibly scaring wealthy people, no wait thats a crime isnt it
No, but a girl was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that said b******s to blair. A gentleman was arrested under terrorism charges for heckling Jack Straw. I read an interview with a solicitor, where he stated that possession of the book called "scouting for boys" is sufficient grounds to be arrested and charged for terrorism.
We're about to have a law that makes it an offence to say good things about terrorism. It's a fact that the violence of the IRA and it's predecessors has brought about the 26 counties being free. To say that after the new law comes in will be a terrorist offence. You can bet they won't lock people up for praising the French resistance during the war, yet both groups used violence to resist invaders.
The average rank and file police officer is in no way the problem. Some of the posts here seem to blur the lines between laws enacted by parliment, and the police officers who are required to enforce said laws.
It turns out that the original poster was breaking the law. I stand by my original statement, that without hearing anything from the police officer involved, it does seem a silly application of the law, but we don't know the officers reasons behind his actions. To automatically assume he's a power tripper is absurd.
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