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I think 94/95 was the golden era in hardcore evolution - when the breakbeat and kickdrum sounds existed as one, and when it had started to break away from jungle.
It may not be as dark as you like but it's hardly what you can call cheesey.
Do you like this sort of stuff more? Ellis Dee & Robbie Dee
I wouldnt call it hardcore but i wouldnt call it cheese either...
This is cheese
Can't really find any hardcore mixes online so um.. shoutcast?
what you have is old skool
That first mix I posted is hardcore.
The 2nd mix is a jungle mix.
What's being played in clubs now is a hybrid of hardcore and hard trance and the stuff being played between 96 and 2000 you could coutn as 'happy hardcore'.
Sub genres and styles flying all over the shop.
I think it was a terrible time for hardcore because it went a different way from jungle.
Pre-set synth stabs and chipmunk vocals are the epitome of cheese IMO.
I don't know, it won't download. Tbh, I'd rather listen to Derrick Carter.
ok then, well personally i'd say its old skool hardcore because it sounds a lot like the sort of mixes heard by people like carl cox or slipmatt back in 92.
It wouldnt be classed as hardcore by todays standards however which seems to be an upbeat nu-energy hybrid.
It evolved into light and dark - if it didn't go a different way would it not still be jungle?
The are 3 tracks at most with high pitched vocals in an 1hr10min mix.
Nah that's different again - that's what blaggy's on about.
Jungle took all the basslines, riddim, soul and funk and left happy hardcore with cheesy stabs and chipmunk vocals.
I must admit, I only skimmed through it, but the predominance of off beat one note basslines and awful brass stabs made me turn it off sharpish.
That's over simplified things though.
Although hardcore did develop cheesy stabs and chipmunk vocals it wasn't staright from the split with jungle.
Happy Hardcore didn't really arrive until late 95/96.
Well, yes. I'm posting on a bulletin board, not writing a cultural studies thesis.
Probably, I'm not too sure tbh. Although looking back from 2005, it seems to me that jungle took the good stuff, leaving the shite to turn into happy hardcore and then influence hardhouse and hardtrance.
*shudders*
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I can't stand trance, funky house and breakbeat, however.
Some trance is good, funky house is not bad but you can't beat some good old techno :yes: .
We all have our tastes i guess .. but still cheese and happy hardcore is a no no for me :no:
Good jungle survived longer than good hardcore IMO. But what has become of jungle now?
Again happy hardcore didn't arrive properly until 96 way after the scene had split. Out of all the hardcore styles gabber has surived without the most change, although it has slowed down a little noiw.
I still go raving, and although the music now isn't what I came to love when I first got into it, I see others with as much enthusiasm as I did way back then.
As long as people love their music for what it is rather than image, I'll never diss them or their music.
Mutated and split into drum'n'bass, UK garage, grime/eski/dub-step, yardcore and breakcore.
Naaah, people were calling it happy hardcore in 95.
Can't stand gabba, although its had a bit of an influence on the yardcore/breakcore scene.
I'd agree with that. Although arguing about music is fun. If you don't think that your own taste is superior then you don't care enough
And 94/95 hardcore still had breaks, it was only later on that Happy Hardcore (which lacked breaks) came through.
I like funky house man, Love psy trance and techno, old skool garage as well, if you like eat static or zubzub check this new remixed album out of a guitarist im into TRACK 5 and 8..... ... theres some other dancet ssamples on the site as well,
I like Trance, I don't really like the Top 40 type of stuff but I do love Progressive/Psy/Minimal Trance and some Goa.
Also love Progressive/Minimal House, Progressive Breaks and Atmospheric DnB.
I love me house, but whenever anyone says "funky house", it makes me want to kill people. All house is funky by very defintion. Unfortunately, most "funky" house is anything but. It's usually tired old disco loops chucked through a filter with terrible vocals. It's what we used to call "handbag house" back in the day. Give me proper deep house or Chi-town any day.
now i know i'm old ...