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hows africa doing then?
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geldof and the g8 ...i did say you would all mostly forget all about the plight of africa after the publicity you drank in and defended so readily, came to an end.
the conversation in here has died ...quicker than the millions slowly starving to death ...hello sir bob ...hello bono ...hello followers and supporters ...
shallow as a fucking puddle some people.
the conversation in here has died ...quicker than the millions slowly starving to death ...hello sir bob ...hello bono ...hello followers and supporters ...
shallow as a fucking puddle some people.
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but ...get a pop star or two ...and bandwagon comes to mind.
i did say ...as soon as it was all over everyone would forget ...especialy those who disagreed.
trendy ...fashionable etc etc ...but mostly bandwagon.
until of course it's fashionable for a few weeks then places like this fill up with concern ...and then the shows over and it's on to the next nugget of informaytion and events.
people who pressume themselves to be educated ...inteligent ...caring ...being taken along for ride after ride ...
big and rich placres like the western powers?
That was the point of Live 8, to publicise what's going on on that continent and the changes that are being made. Thousands of people turned up to show their support in Edinburgh too, just to show Mr Blair and the world leaders that we do care and offer our support to make changes (although I didn't quite get why Palestine Solidarity were there).
What bad did the Live 8 do the country?
Oh and for the record, at least in Edinburgh there were a lot of cool people, many of which belong to different organisations that are going to change the world for the better hopefully.
no i aint taking the piss.
i grew up in a world of entertainment and information ...but they were hijacked for a while by the peace and love commie generation ....
we actualy had fim and music that had been hijacked by lsd.
the whole fashon movement thing was geared to make love not war ...peace and love and feed the hungry ...etc etc.
i often wonder wether or not that was our last chance.
the media now is violent and mostly about have and death.
not a good mix to produce any peace heroes me thinks.
i can see the hippy in you ...
Hmmm, I'd say there are plenty who GIVE A SHIT - and if it "doesn't sell" how comes Slob Welloff got so much coverage out of it?
Niger's having a terrible time - thanks to the IMF with its condition that Niger sold of the grain reserves just as the drought was kicking in - Sudan's in a mess - Zimbabwe hasn't gone away - Ugandan women are being abused while on hunger strike in Yarl's Wood.
The news is out there - and I really don't believe that people refuse to buy broadsheets cos they cover Africa.
All in all, I don't think this was one of your best interventions in a debate Fiend.....
It made people think they'd done enough for the moment.
I'm not proud to come from a generation that is more likely to vote for Big Brother than to vote for the Prime Minister, but look at what Live 8 did. Even if, for example 75% of people who went to see the bands play didn't give a toss about Africa, 25% may have and even if half of those find their interest wears off, there would still be more people working for Africa's future in the first place.
I don't mean to sound nasty, but you can't automatically assume that anybody who got themselves involved in the G8 march or Live 8 was doing it to be fashionable. It's not the case with everybody. Take the anti war protests, it gets people interested and provides them with information they wouldn't otherwise come across.
I agree the media doesn't seem to support peace, it is violent these days, but it's the perfect conditioning tool run by the fat cats and governments. If all of a sudden people woke up to all the injustice and corruption in the world they'd be in danger of losing their money.
Though having said that, I didn't actually get involved in the G8 march or liveaid or anything.
It's called novelty, your's has worn off.
i was kind of hoping to hear more good news ...more glimmers of hope ...more stories of what action is actualy taking place.
the idea of the thread was to learn something ...unfortunately it didn't work very well.
AS for action taking place... There are always aid agencies out there in countries in poverty, but sadly there isn't enough support for them and blowing the whistles on many big corporations on the way in which they trade and exploit people is near impossible. I mean just look at the Union workers assassinated by Coca Cola in Columbia.
Oxfam have already sent a "please give us some money" mail shot.
To re-frame that problem, I give you an impoverished village in, say, India and £100,000. What are you going to first? Dig a well? Irrigate? That's about £50 spent. What next...?
Build a school?
It makes loads more sense to give money directly to organisations based in the south - but because of problems of corruption and accountability they have to channel that money through northern based organisations - which is all a bit silly - though does provide me with a job.... (I even said in my interview that my job shouldn't really exist - i guess at least i'm being realistic)
Definitely a good start.
A lot of villages have one of those and are still poor. Buld a better one? Where are you going to find teachers? Money can't create them, it can only pay them when you have them.
In the UK it would cost a lot to employ a teacher, or driver, or builder but in those countries it's dirt cheap.
...get back to you later.