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I just got my daily email from Scotsman.com with all todays news and there happens to be yet another article questioning the charitable status of private schools. clicky Maybe it's because I'm part of the private sector, but I see no problem with these schools so long as they actually do contribute to charity work and try to help those who're less well off (which my school does).
But judging from the medias reaction to this new bill , I'm one of the few who feels this way. What does everyone else think?
But judging from the medias reaction to this new bill , I'm one of the few who feels this way. What does everyone else think?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3701161.stm
#this story is about a year and a bit old, i dont have a problem with them having such status, but as the story i have posted suggests, they only get the status if they deserve it, fair enough they might lose it and be worse off than before, but if they dont deserve it, then they shouldnt have it
Having charitable status and being a charity are two entirely separate things. Charitable status exempts you from many aspects of taxation, and public schools should not be exempt any more.
Schooling according to finances is morally abhorrent anyway.
last i heard, she was struggling in school (she has no learning disabilities or anything before you think im just mean!
and to think, all through primary school right til the very end, we were seen as academically equal......
not jsut me this has happened to either. it might not be anywhere else, just our crappy schools, but i sure as hell know my kids will NEVER go to private school
So the next time the men/women doing business as "your local council" sends you a bill(and a large proportion of that includes a provision for "schooling") your morals will prompt you to tell them "Go fuck yourself" ?
seeker
Are you questioning the "moral stance" you made earlier ?
seeker
And I can't.
Ok let`s sift through the "tripe" slowly.
You said
"Is" suggests a statement of fact but that`s by the by,I guess,as facts don`t seem to be important.
Anyway,you`ve made your "moral" stance so I asked you what you would do when you are presented with your next council tax bill.From memory,the last time I looked at one,there was a provision in the bill for "schooling".As you think that schooling should have nothing to do with finances,would you uphold your strong moral stance with the "council" and ignore the bill on "moral grounds" ?
seeker
I am completely against private schooling because I believe in a meritocracy. All people should have the same opportunities.
Hmm..... who decides what's of merit?
Annnnnd to merit to whom and how?
Nice sentiment.
That first sentence makes little sense to me so I would welcome an explanation.
Maybe you are the kind of person who doesn`t like "awkward" questions.I`ve found that as far back as I can remember most of the people I`ve met have exhibited that trait.No more so than in "school".I got that "don`t ask questions" feeling all the time. Eh,perhaps it`s me
I welcome questions,both from within and externally.I find it IS the basis of my education.
BTW you still ain`t directly answered my question,(I think ?).Are you "completely against private schooling" unless the private corporation has "council" in it`s trading name?
seeker
That would be my theory...
Logic ain't really your strong point is it?
Matadore will suprise us all and say something astutue one day.
I don't see how this country can progress truelly without people starting at the same place and working their way up.
I think everyone should have the same opportunity. I think people who don['t really care shouldn't receive education when they fail to those who do care and do well. I'm not tlaking general education here, but in my experience in a level there are those that are there because they want to do well and go to uni - these are pushing themselves and achieving A-D grades, and there are some who are there who cant be arsed and getting Us in half their subjects. I don't mean to cause offense to anyone who has done so and tried hard, just I know a lot of the people who don't do very well is because they don't try.
BTW, Leicester schools are doing fantastically well (watch test the nation, and see how Leicester does on the IQ test), and they receive the least funding in the entire UK, so I don't think education is just about money.
Sticking to facts ? Now I feel that would be the best policy.Let`s give it a go.I`ll start with a couple of easy questions first.They should be a doddle `cos you are very assertive with this point.
"Last time I checked"?
When was that then ? And what was the check that you performed ?Remember though........stick to facts.
I await your (hopefully for me) educating reply.
seeker
An education system which educates everyone in the same way is doomed to fail. Just look at the Comprehensive experiment - its been a dysmal failure and even the Labour party now realises that one size fits all education doesnt work.
Besides, parents should have the right to pay for their children to be educated.
I see no problem in Private Education if parents wish to provide the best for their children and can afford to do so. And even if they can't, there are plenty of bursaries flying around these days which many private institutions offer as a way of validating their charitable status in addition to their numerous acts of charity and good will.
At the end of the day, if the best you can do for your child is state education, that's great cos that's the best you can do. But I think it's a sin not to provide the best of everything you can for your offspring, to give them the best start possible in life.
How very facist of you.
I think it'd do society good.
Yep, got it in one.
A system which bases opportunity on the bank balance of the parent is grossly unfair and morally abhorrent.
If Blair and his chums had to send their kids to a state school maybe the state system would be looked after a bit better.
Private schooling is completely morally unjustifiable as a concept. All it does is reward money not ability.
I`ll assume that by "private schooling" you mean any "schooling" that is not provided by a corporation with "council" in their trading name.
It seems odd that you find this "completely morally unjustifiable" but you welcome(?) the service being provided by men/women whose modus operandi is a violent/coercive one. :eek: :shocking: :eek: :shocking:
It looks like you have been "schooled" in the notion that violence is the way to accomplish your goals.Should I blame your "teachers" ?
seeker
You need help.