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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
i was just wondering...is it still child pornography when a naked picture of a child is taken even though it isnt intended for others to see it? :confused:

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote:
    i was just wondering...is it still child pornography when a naked picture of a child is taken even though it isnt intended for others to see it? :confused:

    if it's taken for deviant purpose, then i would imagine yes.

    Taking a picture of naked child isn't illegal in itself of course.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote:
    i was just wondering...is it still child pornography when a naked picture of a child is taken even though it isnt intended for others to see it? :confused:

    no it's not, however if you take pictures of naked children and start posting them up on the internet, then you're fucked...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what about filming?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ballerina wrote:
    what about filming?

    "Hello...police?"

    lol.

    Nah, again it'll be the same, it's the motivation between the photography/filming. Unless you're filming because you're a paedophile or intend to pass it on the peadophiles, it's cushty. That's how i presume the law will work anyway.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There have been cases where people have been investigated for taking pictures/filming their children.

    It isn't illegal to do either, but you may find yourself under suspicion.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pornography (from Greek πορνογραφια pornographia — literally writing about or drawings of harlots) is the representation of the human body or human sexual behaviour with the goal of sexual arousal, similar to, but (according to some) distinct from, erotica.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'll try and explain how the law works.

    There are five categories of child abuse images. Category One is naked images of children, in a non-sexual setting but with a sexual focus. For instance, taking pictures of naturist children but focusing the camera on the genitals. Cat 2 is non-penetrative sexual acts between children, including masturbation, and cat 3 is penetrative sex between children or non-penetrative sex between a child and an adult. Cat 4 is penetrative sex between a child and an adult, and category 5 is serious sexual abuse, including sadism and bestiality.

    In the strictest terms taking pictures of your kids in the bath isn't child abuse, and therefore not child pornography, and therefore not illegal. It does get tricky as many home snaps could be construed as category one if the police wanted to, but sentencing guidelines indicate that category one pictures and photos are not serious enough to merit prosecution on themselves.

    Take a lot of naked pictures of your kids, or any pictures of naked kids not your own, and you will find yourself getting investigated. Generally it wouldn't go any further without more serious categories of images also taken or stored.

    Having spent the day reading this shite, it does make the law seem less appealing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think there was one woman who took photos of her children naked for art, but they were in dodgy positions like standing over each other etc. I don't know what happened in that case but I thought it was a bit dodgy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have pictures of my son in the nude, Im pretty sure there is the odd childhood pic of me in the nude too. If its just a family snapshot, then its fine.
    Pornography is sexual. Just because a person is naked, it doesnt necessarily mean its sexual. The difference is pretty obvious.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think there was one woman who took photos of her children naked for art, but they were in dodgy positions like standing over each other etc. I don't know what happened in that case but I thought it was a bit dodgy.
    But that's the thing. Why is nudity seen as "dodgy"?

    Pedos will get turned on looking at kids walking down the street. They get the real horn form the additions catalogue. Should they be banned too, just because someone, somewhere, might look at it in a "dodgy" manner?

    Art is obviously art. Children naked playing together is innocent, children sucking each other off is not. I think the difference is obvious, and those who decry anyone who looks at, or takes pictures of, naked children are idiots.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've got a naked picture of one of my daughters being bathed. I think its a rather sweet picture and would be rather pissed off if someone suggested it was in any way pornographic.
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    Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    Some couple took a naked photo of their 2-year-old in the bathtub and were prosecuted for pornography. Of course in the U.S..
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You know you cannot take pictures of your kid swimming in a swimming pool either.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You know you cannot take pictures of your kid swimming in a swimming pool either.
    IN fact, if you are a man with children you're a dirty pedo.

    Jail them all!
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    Indrid ColdIndrid Cold Posts: 16,688 Skive's The Limit
    Kermit wrote:
    IN fact, if you are a man with children you're a dirty pedo.

    Jail them all!
    I agree... As I've said before, the way the world is growin in a few years whenever a man says "I love my kids" other people will be disgusted and think of him as a pedophile.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    But that's the thing. Why is nudity seen as "dodgy"?

    Pedos will get turned on looking at kids walking down the street. They get the real horn form the additions catalogue. Should they be banned too, just because someone, somewhere, might look at it in a "dodgy" manner?

    Art is obviously art. Children naked playing together is innocent, children sucking each other off is not. I think the difference is obvious, and those who decry anyone who looks at, or takes pictures of, naked children are idiots.

    Well what I meant by the dodgy positions they were in - one was a baby with a naked 6/7 y o standing over the baby naked with her legs on either side of the baby's head. From my point of view there were sexual connotations in this.

    Can't find the article through google, really worried about the kind of words I put into a search engine lest a child porn website comes up etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well what I meant by the dodgy positions they were in - one was a baby with a naked 6/7 y o standing over the baby naked with her legs on either side of the baby's head. From my point of view there were sexual connotations in this.

    Why?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well what I meant by the dodgy positions they were in - one was a baby with a naked 6/7 y o standing over the baby naked with her legs on either side of the baby's head. From my point of view there were sexual connotations in this.

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    Is that a sexual position then?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    before the hang 'em all jump up on their soap box, surley there should be study/research into the triggers for this, and the big part that the net plays.

    But anyway, whoever said 'hang'em all' could you please start with this pathetic piece of vermin;


    http://www.wkrc.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=9F022CA7-F175-4FF6-A1E3-D43679DE2ED1
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is that a sexual position then?

    In my opinion it has a strong sexual reference, especially since the baby is more or less forced to stare straight up at the girls vagina. However, I may just be a prude.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In my opinion it has a strong sexual reference, especially since the baby is more or less forced to stare straight up at the girls vagina. However, I may just be a prude.
    Yes, you may just be a prude.

    It doesn't sound disgusting or sick at all, to me. Children play with each other without clothes when they are young, it doesn't mean it is sexual. Children play with each other in swimsuits for holiday and clothing brochures, that isn't sexual either.

    Paedophiles will find the latter sexually stimulating, there was a court case not so long ago where a paedophile wanted access to the GUS catalogue in his prison cell, and the prison service refused it because he only wanted it for the swimwear and underwear sections in it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Yes, you may just be a prude.

    It doesn't sound disgusting or sick at all, to me. Children play with each other without clothes when they are young, it doesn't mean it is sexual. Children play with each other in swimsuits for holiday and clothing brochures, that isn't sexual either.

    Paedophiles will find the latter sexually stimulating,.
    Exactly. its in the eye of the beholder.
    You cant ban things that dont harm anybody, just because somebody may possibly get off on it.
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