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TBH, we're doomed!
Colonies on Mars? Bullshit, tbh. Mars is a dead planet. Colonies, but not proper thingsl ike cities in Total Recall, that planet needs sustinance from Earth for any life. Research facilities nad hte like will be there IF ANYTHING.
But we don't have that technology yet. And if a man were to go to Mars, the only guys with enough experience are Russian. So it would be the US sending a Russian to mars.
A new chance for Humanity to unite as one? I hope so!
and no we have no certainty whatsoever that these are actual planets.
if it is so easy to establish human colonies on such hostile places as the moon ...how come all attempts at trying out these glass bubble environments here on planet earth with every condition perfect including easy access and supply lines ...with abundant air and water and nutrition ...always end up in failure?
here we are living on an amazing self sustaining planet ...crops and creatures in abundance that just keep on replicating themselves ...oceans and breathable air ...enough resources to provide for eight planets ...but we are wrecking it ...to the point where poeple like you are seriously putting your hopes in a few men going to live on barren dead boulders wandering around the sun as some kind of saviour?
only a tenth of this planets population have access to all this wonderful technology that is killing the other nine tenths ...yet somehow ...you have some kind of faith ...like a blind religous faith that ignores the realities ...a faith blinded by material science and movies?
your faith is obviously very strong ...but the evidence is ...that your religion is ignoring the death dealing facts.
inteligent and educated ...but bitter and trapped in material science ...ignoring the facts.
lolo wrong again, mars isnt dead.... it has water... frozen water, but water none the less, that is all you need for a self sustaining colony. they can get all the oxygen they need to breathe from the water and use the hydrogen for fuel
Yes.
It fails at the "atomic" level. Gravitation is too weak below a certain size to have any effect. On the other hand it's been postulated that there is an upper threshold to it as well.
It's easier if you think of everything as having "material" existence, but that there is only one substance. The difference in properties then becomes it's relative nature due to it's frequency, tone and pitch. (Instead of protons and neutrons etc.)
Read Mars by Ben Bova, and Moonrise. Fantastic books which are built on scientific knowledge and realism.
ever here of hydroponics?
surviving and living are slightly different though.
every glass bubble biosphere experiment here on this planet of abundance ...has failed yet your believing they will succeed on a barren boulder in space ...your faith is strong.
this religion of yours is as bad as all the others that men cling to.
it blinds.
then we as a species are extinct, the reason it will work is there will be no choice, yes it will be terribly hard for the first few generations, but will get easier as the new generations are born.
in the 10000's years that humans have been around we have only had the technology to destroy ourselves for the past 50 years, i will be very surprised if in fact we make it 100 years more.WMD's are here to stay, we might get rid of the bomb, but it will just be replaced by new and even deadlier devices, most probably biological/chemical, the fat mans out of the bottle and we arent going to be able to put him away.
ten humans live in a bubble on mars ...and you somehow see life eventualy getting easier for them! having children and prospering.
you see the wonderful world we already inhabit as doomed and therefore disposable.
we can't succeed and thrive on a planet of plenty ...but eventualy we'll be just fine on a rock with zilch.
comic book religion seems worse than the robe wearing fish hat cross lot and thats saying something.
theres nothing kind about man.
yet still you hope somehow that putting these creatures under the enormous stress of being removed from their natural habitat ...crammed into a small bubble ...having gone from a land of ease and plenty ... they will survive and thrive and be happy ever after.
and you hope that man will be able to just live in peace forever.
you think im delusional, and i think your delusional, lets just agree to disagree on this one
OPPS CAPS ...
but also a social animal.
if we spent our money wisely ...everyone could be fat and jolly but no ...we have to waste everything.
it will be even worse in some cramped bubble where we even have to worry about manufacturing an atmosphere and mainting it etc.
it is mans thinking that has to be changed ...not his habitat.
looks just like arizona, morroco, eygpt and numerous other places that have populations in the millions
Man works best in smaller groups, where they tend to be more sociable. The Mars colony would have to work something like a Hippy Commune. But then the US Governemnt would bulldoze it for being evil, those darn hippies! You see, with an indefinite time period ahead of us (How long will mankind last? We don't know!), we should work together for the greater good. However, some people couldn't give a shit about the next generation (See: Rich Kid), and so would rather exploit now, and let the next generation pay for it when our planet dies. "Oh Well, i'll be dead by then! Haha!". Hmm.
Put a large amount of men together though, and one or two will start to think of exploiting the rest to gain more. And so it starts again. A small colony on Mars would work, until the problem of reproduction and inbreding becomes to great.
Damn, Humanity really is doomed, isn't it?
a different point of view from yours is simple minded?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mfogg/zubrin.htm
biology of ...
http://spot.colorado.edu/~marscase/cfm/articles/biorev3.html