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Sorry, some more of that 'gay' stuff again :o)
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"Under the Sexual Offences Act, 1967, sexual contact between men is permitted only if both men consent, are 18 or over, and it takes place in private with no one else present."
Can two guys hold hands or kiss in public legally? How do people feel about this themselves - would you mutter and stare, think it's a good thing, or not think anything of it?
Can two guys hold hands or kiss in public legally? How do people feel about this themselves - would you mutter and stare, think it's a good thing, or not think anything of it?
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Why would any modern person have a problem with seeing a gay couple holding hands or kissing? I think it's cool, and it's not like they're hurting anybody. Quite the opposite in fact.
but I think that there are still homophobic people in the world, and if they see a gay couple kissing in the street it may lead to attacks related to the fact that these people are homosexual.
And while I'm not condoning this AT ALL, and what I'm saying might seem like I think gay people shouldnt have the opportunity to express love for their partners in public (which I'm not!), what I'm actually trying to say is that what we should do is try and educate people as to why they shouldnt be prejudiced against homosexuals. It would be a difficult task, as its most probable that these people have been brought up to have a homophobic view, maybe we can catch the next generation before they begin to think in such a way.
Or maybe, (since everyone is entitled to their opinion), we should educate people so, even if they are homophobic, they dont act upon it. If you know what I mean.
Ooh, dear me - I'm knackered after all this thinking....
2, because you just feel aukward anyway.
However I would say the latter for straight people to. I think although to me it's not natural, if a gay couple want to show their effection in the same way a straight couple do, then they should be able to coz it would be like prejudice not to let them. I think that the bit about both concenting and being 18 should stay the same. There are lots of gays in my city and at 16 alot of lads[not all] are still unsure of their emotions, so do things not knowing what they are doing and regret it. At 18 you are more mature and are alot more sure of your sexuality in general, so can go into things knowing that you are gay.
I am sorry if I sound anti gay but I'm not really. I am a christian though and it's a difficult topic for me to sound neutral, hope I did ok.
I am training to be a youth worker and as a volunteer I am kind of employed by my local council. I am seen as a role model to other young people and so can't be open about my sexualtiy - especially because of Section 28!
However, as youth workers pn my course and my collegues, we must all remain neutral and not give hints either way about our sexuality - be it homo, hetero or bi. This I think is extremely good practice as it is not promoting homosexuality (whatever 'promoting may mean!)
I think that the fact that u r christian should not really matter. If u think that gay is ok say it dont hide.
seeya soon and e-mail me beth
So you mean threesomes...??
Hmmmm, the bible is getting kinkier, it seems....
I must add that this is not a personal go at anyone on this site, it's just the world in general. I think we best leave the religion alone 4 now coz I don't wanna fall out with anyone.
You can't bring up religion to win an argument, THEN say 'I don't want to discuss it any more'. Religious texts were written by the hands of people, not the hands of the gods, thousands of years ago. They often contradict themselves, and also contain the prejudices of the people that wrote them. You can use bits of any religious books to support just about any argument you can imagine - that's just too easy! There are lots of things in the bible that are utterly irrelevant to modern life, society has moved on in the last 2000 years and clinging word-for-word to the few homphobic bits that suit you just isn't on. Why don't you just admit that you are frightened of gay people, instead of hiding behind a book?
Whether gay sex is natural or not is a matter for debate. I think it probably is natural. All this love the person, hate the act stuff gets on my nerves, it's just homophobia in a different wrapper, regardless of how you try to dress it up.
[This message has been edited by RedEd (edited 26-06-2000).]
With or without the book and all the religion, I don't think being gay is natural but a gay person would say the same about me being straight. It's all about perspective on life. I am not homophobic, I really am not and I do not try to force my opinion on anyone. You say you have read the bible in depth and you still think there are lots of contradictions. Well I respect your view and do not comdem you for that, just like I don't comdem gay people for being gay. I agree that there are alot of christians in the world who preach one thing and say another, so I don't blame you for thinking God and all that is a pile of s**t. I'm sorry if I came across wrong in the first place but you have no right to tell me that I'm hiding behind a book or stuff like that.
erm actually )yay, it's me - the original topic poster - it got a flaming symbol - wow!!!) i'm gay and i would NOT say sraight people are unatural - i really hate a fight against an 'ism' or phobia(sexism, racism, homophobia...) that goes too far the other way - music awards for black music, where music awards for only white music would be classed as racist, women who think that men have been @ the top for too long and that they should stamp on men ... they don't want to be equal. Homosexual people who think str8 men and women are unnatural are just plain annoying - stupid words like 'breeders' just serve to split up the two sets of people even further. At the end of the day i'm no different than you, except that @ the minute i'm very happily in love with a guy. (I know 99% gay guys will tell me i'm a party pooper, but while i think something like a pride march is all very nice for a laugh and a party, i think it serves to yet again strengthen the split between str8 and gay people. "Here i am, i'm gay, i'm different to you and i have my own party and march that's not for str8 people" - not the right attitude methinks ...)
Well anyway come on what offensive crap, and I mean what I have said, not what you read into what I've said!!!
Ed
Ed