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Tramadol hydrochloride
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OK, through Googling I've worked out a basic knowledge of how this works, but what I've been unable to determine is any pros and cons against say, something like Co-dydramol, or whether it's likely to be more effective. Can anyone help?
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i have tramadol ...synthetic opiate i think.
very strong painkiller.
if you take on an empty stomach can be very unpleasant.
if you take late at night can keep you awake.
can ruin your appetite.
all in all a good painkiller if used correctly.
What exactly does it do if you take it on an empty stomach?
not sure why but if you take it on an empty stomach you feel very sick ...may well be sick ...opiate type side effect.
plus it can space you out rapidly on an empty stomach.
some people take three or four for the buzz.
whats it for if you mind me asking?
tramadol is good but ...in my experience not for long.
that might just be me.
my back doesn't trouble me on a daily basis ...but when it does i can hardly move.
out come the tramadol and valium ...i also have morphine sulphate ...a months supply lasts me a couple of years as i realy don't like them.
but ...cannabis is the best for me.
it doesn't work like a pain killer though ...i have to smoke for a couple/three days before the painkilling properties kick in but excellent when it does ...and of course i love the side effects.
tramadol ...very common in spinal pain.
It's not just you.
It's a real problem Rolly. He's thinking about a fusion... but it's a big decision as there's so much to go wrong.
i considered a fusion but was told the odds were fifty fifty ...not of sucsess but fifty fifty wether or not i'd end up worse ... with odds like that i gave it a miss.
about 6months ago i had two injections ...not cortisone ...can't remember what the hell it was now but ...hardly felt a thing for six months ...brilliant but ...i was warned by the doc not to get carried away with the lack of pain as i would be accelerating the wear and tear.
i know a joiner who had the fusion job ...he's been off work for quite a few years ...had the op ...was back at work within months and hasn't looked back ...for about 8 years by now so yes it can be good.
this may sound like an old wives tale but i do it and believe in it.
the latest findings say that virgin olive oil is a natural anti inflamotry as well as being amazing for the blood the hair the eyes the bones the circulation the stomach ...and on it goes.
i have ten mills every morning. washed down with a swig of milk or juice.
maybe the fusion is the way to go.
in the meantime ...how about asking his doc for MST ...morphine sulphate time release tablets?
swallow one and it slowly releases over a twelve hour period. it says don't chew ...as this would negate the time release factor ...so on the advice of my doc ...i chewed one and swallowed one. that way you get pain relief within about 20mins that keeps on going for twelve hours ...same again later.
morphine for medicinal use is relatively addiction free.
but it does make you constipated ...take lax ...does make you feel a bit sicky first couple of days but ok after that.
ETA: You siad you really don't like them, why is that?
about seven years ago i spent a week in hospital with my back. morphine numerous times a day.
on the fourth day i refused anymore.
i was put under pressure to carry on with it but refused ...stepped down to tramadol.
when asked why ...my reply was simple ...i was likeing it too much!
no one else on the ward had any problems with it.
but i am an addict when it comes to raw opiates.
it is in a way a last step. but it is worth a try.
if he's not junkie minded like me he should be fine.
my disliking it comes from my liking it ...does that make sense?
has he talked to the doc about cortisone injections or whatever the injections were that i had?
Oh, sorry lol, that was dumb of me. I thought it might be side effects or something.
No... I don't know if that would do anything for his problem.. it seems unlikely somehow.
Er, yeah, but you know what I meant!!!
Also, does it space you out at all? Or make you drowsy? Or does it just make the pain go away??
by monday you feel pretty much normal and relatively pain free. you then have to keep it up ...after a time of your choosing give it a miss for ...you'll surprise yourself but ...when it comes back which it always will ...you'll want to start again.
if after a two week period on it you find life has seriously improved ...drop it for a while ...
the downside if your like me ...morphine is much closer to opium than heroin.
morpheus ...the god of sleep.
also a god of eternal youth.
the morphine arrives in your brain and makes you feel a little laid back ...the aches and pains subside and you drift into another world for around three seconds ...a whole civilisation has grown and died in that three seconds of nodding off. you drift off again ...for a few seconds ...you have lived with angels and headless men for twenty years ...to those around you ...you merely closed your eyes for a few seconds. fantastic!
on prescribed MST for a medical condition ...you will get an insightinto this bit the first couple of times you take it and fall asleep for the evening or a nap.
you'd be surprised how much mst IS PREOOPS ...PRESCRIBED FOR SPINAL PAIN. OOPS AGAIN. and a gain.
It can be a bit rough on the stomach, it should always be taken with milk at least.
And if taken for long periods can give you an ulcer and a few other problems.
However, having said that it is an effective pain killer and is virtually completely safe if used correctly.
Somewhere between 50-150mg is the normal dose, though 150mg is the very top end.
It is sort of an opiate, but not, its an odd one really because its sort of an NSAI as well, as in its similar in effect to ibruprofen.
You may also want to try voltarol, its technically one step down from taramadol, but personally I found it just as good at killing pain without the stomach upset.
Argh, I feel like screaming. He already has an ulcer and undiagnosed stomach problems (which predate the tramadol by a long time).
That might be worth a go... thanks for the info.
I presume his GP knows he has the ulcer, and therefore he would have taken that into account.
I found that through this website, in a section on dealing with chronic pain, that may also be of interest.
Tbh I have very little faith in them considering some of the things they have done/failed to do in the past.
Lady Jade, thank you again for those links, I've just found one in there for Coventry Pain Clinic which I've been trying to find for a while now. Sounds like this is exactly the man we need to see.
all the best to mr miffy.