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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
If you are concerned about what is in your food, you should surely be concerned about what is in your water.

Article 3 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union 2000 says; -

1. Everyone has the right to respect for his or her physical and mental integrity.

2. In the fields of medicine and biology, the following must be respected in particular: the free and informed consent of the person concerned...


So WHY am I dosed with a chemical intended to prevent dental caries in under 7's (even that is debatable), delivered in my drinking water without my consent???

At present only about 10 % of the UK has fluoridated water, but the Government plans on encouraging the water companies to let us all have some. The water companies can`t be as keen on this as the Government. Otherwise why would they seek firstly, that it become mandatory for them to fluoridate our water supplies if requested to do so by Health Authorities whereas it was at their own discretion until last year and secondly, that they get indemnity from legal actions, both criminal and civil, resulting from the aforementioned?

Fluoride is added in the form of silicofluorides. Silicofluorides are a Class 2 poison under the poisons act and have SERIOUS adverse health effects.


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree. I think flouride should be optional, I dont think it should be added to the water supply at all. The fact that its poisonous, outweighs the fact that it strengthens the teeth. Its already in most toothpastes, so it doesnt need to be in the water too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ingenious way of getting rid of industrial waste ...make 'em eat it!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    ingenious way of getting rid of industrial waste ...make 'em eat it!

    In fact most of it gets flushed straight down the drain! Not bad when it was quite costly to dispose of before, is it?

    http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/pollution.htm

    In particular look at the part about halfway down the page entitled "What does a company do with the essence of pollution?"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This is very interesting too. (If you can be bothered to read it, it is quite long.)

    The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

    The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist:

    "I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

    "Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

    "The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

    "When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

    "I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years' research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

    __________________________

    Quoting Einstein's nephew, Dr. E.H. Bronner (a chemist who had also been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952:

    "It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the 'next' on the agenda of the water poisoners.

    "There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless 'intellectual' parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic--from within if they can, according to their plan--for their own possession. "The tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory over us.

    "Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration. ...

    "As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22 years, 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on my years of practical experience in the health-food and chemical field, let me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national suicide. Don't do it.

    "Even in small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most efficient rat-killer. ... Sodium fluoride is entirely different from organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by nature, in God's great providence and love, to build and strengthen our bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body, whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble. The body refuses to assimilate it. "Careful, bonafide laboratory experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or promoting 'dental health,' fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth, before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also creates many other very grave pathological conditions in the internal organisms of bodies consuming it. How can it be called a "health" plan? What's behind it?

    "That any so-called "doctors" would persuade a civilized nation to add voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable. It is the height of criminal

    insanity. "No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939 to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin's Last Will and Hitler's Mein Kampf:

    "America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within." ...

    "Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other countries. Sodium fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats. ...

    "Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick national liquidation. It is criminal insanity--treason!" Dr. E.H. Bronner, Mfg. Research Chemist, Los Angeles.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I personally have no problem with my drinking water containing fluoride.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aspartame
    What's the argument for adding fluoride? To strengthen our teeth?
    I'd rather have unflurodated water...nowt wrong with it.

    Specially since the evidence seems to point to the fact that the only benefit of fluoride to teeth is through topical application, not through systemic dosing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mmmmm nothing like a fresh glass of nice clean mountain water :yum:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MoonRat
    Mmmmm nothing like a fresh glass of nice clean mountain water :yum:

    Yes, but is it from the tap? Cause if it is, Tony wants to put fluoride in that nice clean mountain water.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BumbleBee
    I personally have no problem with my drinking water containing fluoride.

    You drink water? What is wrong with you people? Fish fuck in the water... :yuck:
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