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Is a table really a table as we percieve it?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
Anyone know anything about Locke's theory of Perception and Berkley's objections to it?

Im panicking now!
What evil bastard decided to put Stats and philosophy into the one exam??? :nervous:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know about the rest of that stuff, but yes, a table really is a table. :mad:

    Sorry, bad experience with my R.E. teacher who's a philosophy teacher too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I feel your pain...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i feel yours...having to do that exam!


    care to tell me how a table cannot be what we perceive it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know...i don't understand it.
    All i know is that I have to write an essay, tomorrow morning, about how everything is just lumps of matter and it doesn't actually have colour, taste, smell etc etc until we percieve it! :eek2:
    It's all nonsense to me!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    aren't you studying it though?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    nope...its a compulsary module, unfortunately.
    I'm doing Psychology but I don't understand that either so I'm changing to Forensics after the summer.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    oh right, sorry!

    i assumed you studied it. :)

    have you tried philosophy books and what not?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I found a load of websites but they make no sense either!

    I think I just gonna have to make it up as I go along tomorrow.
    Nothing new there tho :P
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Good luck. :)

    I guess with Philosophy that you can just ramble on, I'd like to help but I'm sceptical about these things. I mean, to me..a table's just a table.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    is that the dude that has the thing where everything could be in your mind? and the only thing that you know for a fact that can truley exist is yourself because for you to doubt the existance of yourself, it must be you thinking of it... bla bla it gets more detailed but its 8am... or is it a whole nother dude?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by my_name
    is that the dude that has the thing where everything could be in your mind? and the only thing that you know for a fact that can truley exist is yourself because for you to doubt the existance of yourself, it must be you thinking of it... bla bla it gets more detailed but its 8am... or is it a whole nother dude?

    I vaguely remember that being DeCartes, I think therefore I am guy!
    (I only remember that cos of talky toaster in Red Dwarf "I toast therefore I am" hehe classic!)

    I haven't got a clue about it but rambling on is my speciality so *crosses fingers*

    edited to add - I agree! a table is just a table!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wow! :eek2:
    I think that might actually make sense if I read it a few more times!
    Thanks :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    some ancient indian philosophy/religious stuff from a couple of thousand years back stated ...everything is vibrating therefore everything is an illusion ...which thousands of years later science discovered was true.
    nothing is still and nothing is solid. the solid table is made up of little balls orbiting at the speed of light.
    there is actualy more space in the table than there is matter ...so the table we percieve is convenient but totaly false.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by J
    And therefore my beer. Party pooper!
    and when you think about it J ...following on from the above 'reality' ...we are inhabiting one serious fucking special effects department!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I tried to read Sophie's world about 4 years ago...it's still sitting in my bookcase with the bookmark half way through it.....

    But anyway....
    If that's Locke....why does Berkley object? :chin:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ooooooh....my brain hurts! :banghead:
    I'll be glad when this exam is over!
    I am starting to understand tho :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All a table is, is a supported surface.

    Nuff said.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've given up now!
    Just hope I've worked out enough to put together a decent amount of gibber :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Place these simple words upon your exam paper: "Only smarties have the answer"
    A classic response that a friend of mine gave in his RE exam. He washes cars for a living now, no pressure though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Woooooooo! exam all done!
    I used the bit about the matrix! thanks J! :D
    Was soooo tempted to write "only smarties have the answer" at the end... managed to control the urge... :p
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