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Anti-Social Behaviour Act
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It's funny how it's only the minority who are already claiming loss of civil rights e.t.c.
All of the people I've spoken to are all for it, if it means that people feel safe again.
These powers would help new police presence on the street (whowhere I mean you!) teach these kids who think that can cause trouble a lesson and make problems for people trying to get on with their everyday lives.
"Some children’s charities believe the Act will victimise innocent young people"
Nonsense, I believe well behaved kids will be identifiable from the trouble makers.
"Equal rights groups point out that it will unfairly target ethnic minorities whose cultures involve such large group gatherings"
Rubbish, I can't think of any culture that involves large groups messing around on the streets.
Have you not heard about the new types of police officer? The community support officer?
We have virtually the same powers as regular officers but a slightly different uniform. But we don't do paperwork, instead we spend all our time on the streets stopping that sort of thing.
We hit them where it hurts, their pockets. If that doesn't stop them, or they are too young we fine their parents instead. We can also recommend problem families for eviction e.t.c.
Actually I have a funny story about this... but anyway, yeah I agree.
Actually I'd go all the way as saying to ban fireworks apart from under license achieved only by a 21 year old. Bonfire night celebrates the burning of Catholics anyway... not nice.
Ok, am I the only person who's thinking here that publishing the names of the youths isn't going to create labelling and a self-fulfilling prophecy?
Why do teenagers drink? Partly peer pressure but if a youngster or anybody has alcohol problems they're likely to be troubled at home. There is a lot of alcoholism and apparently kids being took off the streets druunk who're just 8 years old from Caia park, a council estate in Wrexham. If you're 16 you're too young to sign on the dole and £40 is two thirds of what you can get anyway.
I don't know how that works, but I'd say it'll victimise the working class more than anything. Fining people on the spot won't act as a deterrent in my opinion and it doesn't tackle poverty, something that I believe to be a source of blue collar crime like this is supposed to tackle.
Maybe it's there to line politicians pockets with gold. More fines means more money?
Maybe it will? Would hardly be surprising.
This is the same sort of argument speeders use. "But it's not fair, blah de blah".
If you don't break the law then you aren't fined. Yes, some people may find it is just pocket money, but the rich people tend to loathe parting with it even more than poor people do. I'm hoping it'll be the rich people who contest it in court, then we can fine them more.
It's intended to teach people a lesson, they will soon know that there will be PCSO's everywhere, and they are likely to spot you if you're doing something illegal. Yes, you may do it once, but if you knew that you WILL recieve a £50 fine for dropping a cigarette butt, or some litter, graffitti, will you do it?