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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
in Drink & Drugs
I've done a quick search but haven't come up with much concrete information really, so could someone give me the legal status of these research chemicals within the UK?
  • 2C-I, 2C-E, basically the whole of the 2C- family minus 2C-B which I know is Class A
  • 5-MeO-AMT and AMT
  • 5-MeO-DET
  • 5-MeO-DiPT
  • DPT
  • TFMPP

I'm aware that 5-MeO-AMT and AMT have been controlled in the USA, and are now schedule 1 but I couldn't find anything about their legality within the UK. Can anyone shed some light on the matter? :)

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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    All drugs in the 2C family are Class A under the 1971 Misuse of Drugs Acts which means they are illegal to produce, supply or possess in any form. Maximum penalty for possession is seven years in jail.

    from our drugs information page :D

    Working on the rest.....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am virtualy certain that AMT is Class A, I'm not sure about 5-meo-amt though. However I havent heard good things about the 5-meo version of that drug, it is supposed to be very harsh on the body and isnt as good as AMT. Which I have tried and found to be next to useless.

    I am also fairly certain that 5-meo-dipt is Class A, but again its not really any loss, so called "foxy" is far from it, its crap.

    I havent heard anything about 5-meo-det, I have heard good things about 4-ho-det though.

    DPT; I have heard good things about this one but I havent tried it, its also Class A I think.

    EVERYTHING in PIHKAL is Class A, but to my understanding not everything in TIHKAL is. So I would suspect that IF any of them are legal then the last one might be.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/countries/law_uk.shtml
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I thought 2C-I was legal for research use.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Shogun
    I thought 2C-I was legal for research use.

    I'd imagine you'd need to show a document or at least some form of proof for them to believe you.

    Knowing you lot, if you tried to make out you were 'researching' they'd laugh in your face and throw away the key.

    I wonder if you could blag you were researching into expanding your mind? :chin:
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/countries/law_uk.shtml

    Bloody hell Blagsta, I looked for that everywhere on Erowid!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As far as I am aware there are no such things as 'research chemicals' in the UK. I thought that was only brought about by the wierd way in which drugs get banned within the US.

    Things here I think are either covered by the law or not, and 2-Ci definately is.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Maybe they aren't in the uk but there's the internet.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair point. They are available, because, well everything is for sale on the net if you look hard enough.

    But, you have to order by credit card and them sending it to you could well be construed as 'importation of a Class A drug' a very serious offence which I'm pretty sure has a minimum sentance.
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by bongbudda
    Fair point. They are available, because, well everything is for sale on the net if you look hard enough.

    But, you have to order by credit card and them sending it to you could well be construed as 'importation of a Class A drug' a very serious offence which I'm pretty sure has a minimum sentance.

    Its not like you can sneak it in anonymously, they would have all your details! The minimum sentence for importation of class A's is six months AND a £5000 fine.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not sure how it would be played though to be honest, because it is not you that is importing the drug, as such. I'm sure that they would be able to do you for 'conspiring to import' but whether they could get the importation charge to stick is another matter.

    Surely it would be the person who sent it that would be the one trafficing.

    However I certainly wouldnt want to argue this infront of a jury.
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