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Bit of a dunce aren't ya?
So, you stood by and watched people get raped?
Eye witnesses see the crime happen. Why can't you just admit that you have no evidence and that yuo made it up on the spot?
Also, loads of Chinese are now moving into Bulgaria because the wages that they get paid for the clothing trade are better than China, but too low for Bulgarians...
It all goes full circle, you see?
I'll add sarcasm tags next time as the rolleye's obviously wasn't enough.
also jim, they do help suppress wage inflation because a lot of them come over with the intention of saving and sending money back home and not settling permanently (can't blame them tbh), which means they don't have the same expectations re standard of living that brits do, and that means they can undercut plumbers/builders/electricians rates etc, i see it happening all around me, the fact they are generally very good at their job makes it a bit of a no brainer if you need these kind of services....
if you look at the restrictions most other western countries have placed on immigration (quotas etc) it makes sense and this is supposedly what labour are doing this time round, only allowing certain skilled labour that is required helps to avoid a mass influx.
i guess my point is controlled immigration = good, uncontrolled immigration = bad.
Fact ^
Britain is roughly on the edge. It isn't as bad as the likes of the mail and such wankers make it out to be. But there is a slight degree of laxness. It isn't a rosebed either.
There are a few problems. But the thing is... it isn't immigration that tends to bring the bad folk over... they do it illegally 'cos they got something to hide. But not all illegals are bad, there is just no other way for them.
So they all get tarred with the one brush. But it is nigh-on impossible to filter out what illegals are good and bad... because they all have on credentials on 'em, unless they are wanted by Interpol.
Which is unlikley.
There is this widespread belief that Britain is somehow the number one destination for immigrants far oustripping other countries- it isn't.
In fact the immense majority of Eastern European would-be migrants have said they'd rather go somewhere nice and sunny where the service industry is bigger, i.e. Southern Europe, and thank you very much. Only a small proportion of migrants choose Britain as their country of choice for a new life.
And there's still a lot more room here, despite the doomsday predictions of public services collapse the tabloid press have been warning about for what must be decades now.
how many sardines can you fit in a tin? London's way overcrowded already, or haven't you done the peak hour commute? Sure you can pack a few more in but the standard of living goes down.....
as for popular choices of destination, well it depends if all you want is to earn a packet and send it home then britain is no1 surely, i don't see 500,000 poles in germany/france/spain etc, or there wouldn't be any left in poland...
Following different rules
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3513889.stm#uk
Not sure so many are going to other places a) the warm sunny places weren't letting them in b) English is more common as a second language than Dutch c) its useful going to countries where there's jobs - which rules out much of Europe
Of course there's problems with uncontrolled immigration. Its not just public service collapse, but problems with integration over such things as language issue, an underclass of both immigrants and unskilled native workers being created. And whilst there may be room its an unfortunate fact that more people want to live in the crowded London and South East than the sparsely populated Highlands
That's not to say that we should close our doors completely - some countries such as Poland or the Hong Kong Chinese we hold a moral debt too, some people are fleeing persecution, eg from Iran and we also get benefits from skilled immigrants. But it does need to be controlled.
And yet far more people from Eastern Europe end up in Germany or in Southern Europe.
To be quite honest I don't think there is much of a difference in wages between a fruit harvester in Britain and one in Spain- they both get paid shit, but still a lot more than what they'd get paid at home.
The net population of Spain has increased by nearly 4 million people in the last 8- 10 years ago through mostly illegal immigration.
Given that the majority of Bulgarians and Romanians will speak precisely fuck all English, it makes absolutely no difference to them which country they choose to start a new life in.
Listen, I'm not the one who's deciding what country they should go to... they themselves are the ones saying they don't bloody want to come to Britain... They'd even rather go to Belgium in fact...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2525490,00.html
Yes, uncontrolled immigration can create serious problems. Every country has a tipping point. However Britain has never been anywhere near that stage, not now, not before. When we get close to it we can start worrying...