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Man Of Kent wrote:
Really?Are you sure?Still confident?It's not great, is it?
The man kept his country in order, he did what was needed to keep the "peace" in Iraq, since his fall over 3 years ago, i have seen nothing but deterioration in a country which was once seen as a stable fast developing country.
If Saddam deserved to hang, then a great many more people deserve too, including the President of the US of America and our very own Prime Minister.
But I don't believe any of them deserves to hang. No person can ever be, regardless of what despicable monsters they might have been.
Incidentally, I have not noticed a 'R.I.P.' post from Disillusioned yet. No doubt lack of time only would be to blame for this, because we know he is in the noble habit of wishing anyone to rest in peace regardless of their crimes during their life time- such as the late General Pinochet.
Dear Wendy wrote:
Quite an interesting point. Order vs Justice?
When looking at the whole Iraq case, both the war and Saddam's execution from the perspective of Order vs Justice, it all seems full of contradictions. Interesting nevertheless.
I am not going to go in to the whole Palestine debate that sprung up on the last few posts, but Amira whilst you have examples of "real-life" Palestinians, then I have "real-life" examples of the mistreating of Palestinians amongst "their own". It's all about perspective really, isn't it?
To warrant the death penalty you don't need to kill hundreds of thousands. 1 person will do.
Saddam was sentenced to death for killing 150 people in retaliation for an attack on his life. Tony Blair has killed a lot more than that in retaliation for an attack on America and to further the geopolitical and financial interests of a nation that isn't even his own.
I'd say Tony is every bit as deserving of the noose as Saddam ever was.
If Tony was as bad as Saddam, you wouldn't be saying it in fear of your life. Saddam was an evil dictator, alot of people here talk about Tony like a piece of shit, if Tony was an evil dictator would you be saying this still?
And saying he only killed 150 people is stupid, you know it was alot more than that. A friend I speak to who used to live in Iraq was telling me how his soldiers came to a near by village and killed a whole family including the children, what kind of people do this? Like fuck would Tony do something like that.
You think the war with Iraq was unjust and fair enougth, alot of people do. But putting Tony on the same level as someone that launches attacks against his own people is ridiculous.
It is a man dying. I'm very glad they didn't show it. I don't even like the picture they have on the bbc news website at the moment.
And to say 'it would be something different' is just one of the most bizarre things to say.
I didn't say he was as bad. .
On a human note does anyone think Saddam was quite brave at the very end?
I can't imagine ever being so calm and controlled having a rope tied around my neck.
It's a real shame ...he probably had a lot of qualities that makes someone a good leader of millions of people .. and he must have had Billions in swiss bank accounts .. he could have enjoyed the most amazing life and lived in splendor far greater then what Blair or Bush could ever afford.
There are no winners at the moment with the whole Iraq situation .. well except the companies that manufacture arms, bombs, war places, etc for the USA.
I do wonder how Tony Blair sleeps at night ..
Whereas actively seeking footage of an execution is a sick facet of human nature, on the other hand perhaps we should show them in full detail.
I would even go further. I would make people who advocate the death penalty to watch an execution live. To pull the lever themselves actually. To listen to the condemned's heart before the execution as it beats. To watch him eat, drink, sleep. To have a conversation with him.
And then, to execute him themselves. To extinguish that life; to stop that heart forever. To render a functioning human body and a human being to a decomposing worthless pile of skin and bones.
Let's see how many advocate the death penalty afterwards. Regardless of whom the condemned might be.
Flashman's Ghost wrote:
And frankly there are people alive today who I'd shoot dead like a rabid dog and not feel any remorse about it.
promised to take action against all armed groups in Baghdad
What action is he likely to take against those with "US Army" on their clothing ?
I'm With Stupid wrote:
I think it'll involve a large quantity of lubricant.