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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
My Girlfriend and I would like to know exactly what the Mornin after pill does ?
Matter of urgency <IMG alt="image" SRC="confused.gif" border="0">

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Morning after pills deliver large amounts of certain female hormones which act to prevent the implantation of a fertilised egg onto the wall of the uterus. If you had unprotected sex, and your girlfriend is pregnant, the morning after pill will abort the foetus.

    The morning after pill has to be prescribed by your GP (you can't get it from Boots) so if you are worried get down to the surgery without delay. You have 48hrs to take it for it to be effective.

    [If you don't want to get pregnant use contraception next time]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    theres plenty info on this site but ill give you my thoughts.
    it stops the girl becoming pregnant by stopping the egg settling in the womb and/or prevents the actual eg from getting fretilized.
    IT DOES NOT stop a pregnancy thats already started i.e if the egg is already fertilized its too late. (not for abortion or other options however)
    so sooner beter really

    hope this helps
    Mr Worry (over and over again in the mind, is she pregnant? what if she is? jesus that would be a mess to sort out, abortion?)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i didnt think it killed a featus however i may be worng.
    note that there is now the morning after available over the counter in uk no need to see GP
    recently advertised
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Apologies. mr nice is quite right. You can buy the morning after pill froma chemist if you are over 16. And also you can take it up to 72hrs after sex apparently.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mr nice:
    <STRONG>IT DOES NOT stop a pregnancy thats already started</STRONG>
    That's actually quite contraversial since the morning after pill prevents a fertilised embyro from implanting on the uterus wall. Therefore the embryo dies/is killed. Hence some doctors discourage the use of emergency contraception. But don't worry, the doctors and nurses at the GUM clinics have the loosest morals and will prescribe it without a second thought.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Here's some info about emergency contraception: http://www.thesite.org/info/sex/contraception/emergency_contraception.html

    A fertilised egg that has not implanted into the uterus is not called a foetus. The term foetus is for a much later stage of development. Just in case anybody was getting confused or anything.

    If you're still worried or confused, try ringing Brook Advisory for confidential help and advice. http://www.thesite.org/info/helplines/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish:
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    the doctors and nurses at the GUM clinics have the loosest morals</STRONG>

    In your opinion. Others might think they are mostly hard-working people who provide a useful service.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Karla:
    <STRONG>A fertilised egg that has not implanted into the uterus is not called a foetus. The term foetus is for a much later stage of development.</STRONG>
    That is correct, but embryo and foetus are just words. The egg has been fertilised already so if anyone has moral objections to abortion then there isn't much difference.
    <STRONG>In your opinion. Others might think they are mostly hard-working people who provide a useful service.
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    It is a useful service and they do work hard, but they still have the loosest morals.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish:
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    It is a useful service and they do work hard, but they still have the loosest morals.</STRONG>

    Yeah, theyre all slags at the GUM clinic <IMG alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

    They stop people from getting pregnant accidentally, whats so wrong with that? And as the morning-after pill only stops the fertilised egg from implanting in the wall of the womb, its not terminating an embryo or foetus...they are only when the umbilical cord, etc, is formed.

    [ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Kermit ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit:
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    Yeah, theyre all slags at the GUM clinic <IMG alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

    They stop people from getting pregnant accidentally, whats so wrong with that?

    [ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: Kermit ]</STRONG>

    ur one sick fuck-up
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think u lot should just levae the GUM clinic ppl alone.
    they do a really good job because it is not always easy to go to a doctor (and dont say that u shouldnt b having sex if u cant go to a doctor for the morning after ppl because lots of ppl have been there)
    my friends sis used to work at a GUM clinic and she used to c the state of some of the scared young girls that came in and it just shows how much they r needed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The GUM clinics provide a much needed service. You can visit the clinic knowing that you will be neither judged or pressured and remain totally anonymous - handy if you don't want your family doctor to have any knowledge of why you feel you need their services.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think I should clarify a couple of things here before you all hate me forever.

    I totally agree that GUM clinics are very useful things and provide an excellent service in often difficult circumstances.

    I was trying to point out that some doctors are not keen to continually prescribe the morning after pill because of moral/ethical reasons. Therefore the ones at GUM clinics obviously don't have the same moral issues. That's all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with you and I'm not saying I share these so-called "high morals" but some doctors don't like continually prescribing the morning after pill (as you say even at the Brook clinic they give you a lecture if you seem to be using the morning after pill regularly).

    BTW doctors are perfectly entitled to make moral judgements, and they do so all the time. Doctors are not legally obliged to refer girls for abortions, for example (although they will find you another doctor that would). They also make decisions of life and death every day which will involve moral judgements - the prescribing of methadone to heroin addicts is just one example.

    Doctors do have a duty of care, but it doesn't mean they have to forget their own moral obligations whilst doing so.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But your point is what exactly? What would be the point of a girl who desperately needed contraception who had taken the day off work/school to get it, to go to the doctor only to be refused it?

    I am not ashamed to say I have used the services of GUM and Brook clinics and I was impressed with the people that worked there. GP's are not necessarily experienced in areas of a more *personal nature* so I would reccommend anyone to go to a clinic.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I doubt any doctor would deny the girl emergency contraception. Remember doctors are compassionate human beings and they want the best for their patients. I was pointing out that GPs (family doctors) are likely to suggest alternative contraception methods, and some would not refer you for an abortion (they would find another doctor in the practice to do so).

    I think it's a shame that you don;t think your own GP is very good at handling issues of a "personal nature", but that doesn't mean all GPs are bad at it. The advantage of going to your GP is that he/she will get to know you better and will therefore be able to provide a more personal service (as well as the fact that your medical notes will be much more accurate).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do you mind not putting words into my mouth? I never said my GP is bad at anything. Just that GP's see people about anything and everything, so are therefore less experienced in sexual matters, than gynocologists (sp?) and nurses at a GUM clinic. Therefore the nurses won't patronise you or make you feel embarrassed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, but I assumed that you thought GPs weren't as good at discussing personal issues because you had had experience of this with your own GP. Otherwise you are just speculating.

    GPs are very experienced in dealing with all sorts of sexual health problems. I grant you they are not specialists like the nurses or gynaecologists at GUM but they do know a thing or two and don't generally patronise their patients.

    There is a also a stigma attached to going to a GUM clinic for some girls, and so seeing their GP can actually be less embarassing. It's a personal choice afterall.
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