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I don't think anyone is saying that they are scared of all kids but it is obviously rational to be more scared of teenagers than it is of most other age groups.
I have never been threatened or intimidated by anyone over the age of 40 so it would be silly to be scared of old or middle-aed people.
I have however been theratened, and know of many other people who have been threatened, by teenagers and am more wary of them as a result, that is just plain sense.
Not all kinds of teenagers obviously, just the townie scum kind that you can normally spot a mile off.......
http://www.farscapefantasy.com/videos/index.php?set=video&id=319
There's nothing new under the sun. Adults have always complained about the 'youth of today' and the 'youth of today' becomes the complaining adult of the future.
My adult self quails at my teenage self, and my teenage self probably would be shocked that I've become (at least semi-) respectable.
You're telling me, it's a pit of depravity, a sink of crime, another metaphor of impressive sounding construction...
Is it rational to be more scared of young black men than young white men?
After all young black men are statistically more likely to be involved in crime.
It does depend on where you are in loughborough though.
Only if you are scared of being involved in a terrorist incident which itself is irrational because the chances of that are so incredibly small.
Similarly to Skive, I don't know about the break down of statistics, it depends what kind of crime.
Like I said at an individual level everyone knows ( or ought to ) that the vast majority of individual people of any group are not a threat. But as a group I am not at all concerned by pensioners, and I am of teenagers and there is good reason for that......
Yes, it is perfectly rational to be more scared of them. Especially now as it seems they are the ones most likely to be tooled up, and they are the ones mostly likely to use them on innocent people who dare to pull them up on their behaviour.
It doesn't mean that all young black men are knife-wielding maniacs, though.
Are they actually involved in more crime, or do they just get caught more often?
Also, as Skive said, me and my mates used to hang around in the local park having smokes and drinking but we never gave any abuse to anyone, vanadlised, littered or fought, yet the locals were constantly calling the Police on us or driving past shouting out their car windows for us to "GO BACK TO SCHOOL" even though it was the summer holidays...dumb fucks. Oh, and when we reached 18 and we started going down the pub, the old locals didn't like us going in there either and tried to stare us out everytime we went to the bar...so where the FUCK are we meant to go?!?! True, there have been cases when youths have mugged elderly people but it is just a very small minority, they need to be more open minded.
Most people aren't getting worse, but the risks are higher, especially in areas with a high immigrant population.
Yeah, they did.
When I am at home in my village, there's quite a bit of vandalism that goes on, but nothing near the sort of thing that you might get in Newcastle, or Leeds or something. Also, live there long enough and all you have to do is look disapprovingly at them for long enough and they get embarrassed and wander off, doesn't work if you haven't known them since they were 4 years old though.
Honestly, I do find it threatening to walk past or through a big group of "young people", that's not through fear of being shot or stabbed, more about the verbal abuse that you are quite likely to get.
people have been killed over petty things before (think of the 1st world war), different day same shit tbh
if you look like you're fearful of crime you're more likely to be a target of abuse, same if you flash of something with a high value density like a mp3 player or mobile phone (there wasn't many portable things to be stolen before 1980) if you give the impression you think all teenagers are troublemakers, why should they behave when they'll still be given a curfew or an asbo for standing and talking to their mates as opposed to travelling to home/work/shops
i'd go as far to say most people are so wrapped up in their silly lives of work and shopping these days they wouldn't help a stranger in trouble cause it ''doesn't affect them so why should i care"
if you're scared of teenagers, don't blame them, it's your problem not theirs, everyone is too quick to pass the buck
and i can say this without some narrow minded twat saying 'you're a scrounging student' now cause i work and am not a teenager, but have to deal with children/teenagers everyday - be polite and people are polite back 99% of the time strangely (even 14 year olds!), treat them like crap and you get the same back....
Very occasionally i'll cross the street to avoid teenagers who obviously are out to cause trouble, but usually only if i'm out with some one whom i'm protective of, such as my mother. I think if you walk by confidently, don't stare at them and avoid contact then your usually going to be ok. Yes there are a bad element out there, but the same was said of my generation when i was a teenager. I think it's such a shame that the media only ever concentrate on the bad news, the rotten apples of society. It gives older people an unfairly stereotyped view of teens, i was one once (believe it or not) and i was a hard working, polite and decent person.
That`s your excuse is it ?
I completely agree, young people are constantly grouped together as yobs and as being anti-social. it is a small minority of young people that are actually like this. I have been part of the British Youth council's Respect I've put in a link to their website cause i think what they are doing is really good!!!!:) http://www.byc.org.uk/submenu.asp?id=3&menuid=12&subid=7
Without being picky isn't Respect Tony Blair's (or George Galloway's).
Skive - do you have any evidence to back up the idea that young people are mostly the ones responsible for antisocial behaviour?
A whole gang of teenagers 2 weeks aog came to the town centre and robbed people of their phones at knife point at 4pm.
They even stabbed 2 boys.
There was 25 witnesses that came forward and loads of CCTV footage but the police have hardly done anything.
this made me so angry. I went to by a pint of milk and some chicken on saturday before i could even enter into the shop i was asked how old i was and if i had any ID. i asked why, and then the security guard told me that under 16's wernt allowed to enter the shop without a responcible adult. even though once i found ID i was allowed to go through, and that i am over that age limit, it still made me angry. i asked why they had this policy and then was told that they had had a few people coming in and stealing. so rather than getting the idividuals, they have banned a whole section from society. i left a formal complaint, and have been boycotting it since, but this is completly unfair. i'm now going to my MP to complain and see if he can do anything, but this seriously does prove that rather than getting the few problem kids, and thus sorting the problem, everyone is getting scared of a minorty of bad eggs...