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got this advert with a newspaper today.. true?
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i think it sums up the governments intentions with them (no not mass murder of jews gays and non-sympathisers, but to get more control)
i think it sums up the governments intentions with them (no not mass murder of jews gays and non-sympathisers, but to get more control)
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Seriously though, I do have slight doubts about this picture. Nobody detests Tony Blair more than I do. Nobody deplores his lack of ideas and his vanity than me. But trying to compare him to Adolf Hitler seems extreme, and a tad distasteful.
Like myself.
It's a fucking stupid idea to be frank. That makes them seem like over-reacting twats.
I don't mind the idea of ID cards. However, the state should provide them for us for free, like many other things. However, I am going to refuse to pay for one myself. I hope others follow this idea, as if it is compulsory - it should not cost us money!
They use that Hitler comparison all the damn time over here. The Conservatives compared Saddam with Hitler, the liberals compare Bush to Hitler, game hunters compare Parks and Rec officials to the Gestapo, the Anarchists compare every government official ever to Hitler, the anti-factory farm people compare the factory farms to death camps, the pharmaceutical companies compare the ALF to the SS. Frankly, the comparisons are not only stupid and encourage apathy, but they're also somewhat insulting. I'm not sure what type of idiot it takes to sit down and say "hey, what is happening is a bad thing. How can we draw attention to our cause? ...I know, lets draw really stupid comparisons to the Holocaust! Yeah, that'll work great! Because lord knows it hasn't been done 1,000 times so far this year by hundreds of different political groups!" but I'd really like to give him a swift kick in the sack.
What bits of the media do you read? - because when there's news on it its often discussed. at the moment there's no news coming out on them so they're not being discussed.
The problem with ID cards for this country is that: a) this is Tony Blair's Labour in power, which cannot be trusted not to abuse its power, and b) current technology does allow for tracking, spying and recording scores of information. But on another era, with another government and with the old style photocards, I'd say fuck yeah! to ID cards.
Yes, the government can just produce them for free.
Where do you think it gets its money from exactly?
I didn't say produce them for free. I said provide.
So you think it is absolutley fine for them to say "Buy this off us, for £90, or we arrest you" ? You don't see anthing wrong with that?
Where do you propose the poor get £90 from? Students at Uni barley making it by?
Fucking hell, we pay enough tax already. As one of, if not the most taxed country in the world, surley it couldn't hurt the tresury THAT much. If they can afford a war, they can afford this.
The point is they wont be free, they will be hugely expensive, the government will bugger up the computer project, it wont work, it will go hugely over budget and it wont reduce crime or terrorism.
If you want to get rid of the chance of ID cards best vote Tory :thumb:
Not that voting really makes any difference unless you live in a marginal.
And a good job too. Now if only we could disqualify the rest of the lefties and trots