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And a lot do. Anti-Semitism is steadily rising. If you ever pick up a JC left on the tube there's a lot of really nasty vandalism on synagogues and gravestones that unless particularly notorious is not reported in the mainstream media. Of course not all the perpetrators of such attacks are Muslim but unfortunately a disproportionate amount are. There's a reason your bag gets searched when you go to a family friend's bar mitzvah at the local synagogue. (I don't know of normal churches having security on the door).
See the December 9th - December 19th 2005 poll from the Times on the Populus website
Yes, I agree that is very worrying. However - it has to put in perspective. You yourself think that punishing the entire population of Gaza for the actions of a minority is legitimate, you think that indiscrimnately murdering Lebanese people in response to the actions of a minority is legitimate. Extremists are extremists dis - I condemn the Muslim extremists but I also condemn people who support the murderous actions of Israel.
I'm not sure how bringing Israel into the equation puts things into perspective. It provides a convenient opportunity for you to criticise Israel but little else. What has Muslims thinking British Jews are a 'legitimate target' got to do with the actions of a foreign country? To the vast majority of British Jews Israel is a foreign country, most don't hold Israeli citizenship and most have lived in Britain their entire lives having been born here...
And nowhere have I supported indiscriminate murder of innocent people. I reluctantly recognised the need for Israel to fight an enemy that initiated hostilities, I certainly didn't take any pleasure in the events that followed in the grim reality of a war that Israel did not seek. Anyway, nice way to sidetrack the debate...
You're cheering the world onto destruction and it makes me sick.
Without going even more off topic, but what cause and effect are we talking about? Whilst it may be true that Israeli actions increase Palestinian militancy, Palestinian militancy also fuels Israeli actions. Unless you think that the Israeli's are the only actors and the Palestinians are just puppets you have to see Israeli actions in the light that they feel threatened and persecuted and for historical reasons take a very strong line in defence.
yes, but to understand the situation you need to ask yourself, why and what can realistically be done about it? Blaming Israel, may be nice and fun and make you feel better, but it isn't going to solve a thing.
Is Dis forgiving about Israeli actions - probably yes. Are you and others just as forgiving about Arab actions - probably yes. At least from what I've seen getting condemnations of bombings of israeli buses and attacks on civilians has to be dragged out.
Now personally I don't think Israel is wholly innocent, but I don't think its the only actor and i certainly don't think defending it paints someone as an anti-Muslim extremist.
people, not just dis, read this twice through and have a think about what you write on here.... (i am)
How can you compromise?
The figureheads in the Whitehouse change. The CIA does not. Let us not forget the CIA armed and funded the Taliban and the Mujhadeen. They have done the same to Fascists in South America. They used a nuke without any *real* need.
I suppose one way to look at it is now at least they are being OPEN about it. It has been going on since the first got hte people in Guantanamo anyway.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5368360.stm
With this background in mind, it's nice to see the leader of the free world doing his bit to eradicate torture from the face of the earth:
Geneva Convention "vague" says Bush
How proud his supporters must be.
Spreading Freedom my arse.
American authorities are such hypocritical wankers, they condemn such 'human rights abuse' in other countries, when they would readily do the same to foreigners. fucking imbeciles, man, wish they'd just fuck off and leave the rest of the world to it. They do nothing but cause trouble.
Please don't tell me you just compared Muslims to Nazis....
Can you not read or something?
Some people have a poor command of the English language.
Read it again.
Presumably then you entirely reject the fact that there were once Nazis threatening Britain and that there are now Islamists threatening Britain. My 'comparison' did not go any further than that...I cannot really see what there is to dispute about such a well established fact.
Except the so called comparison did not go beyond stating that the Nazis were once a threat and now the Islamists are a threat which is more a simple fact than a comparative analysis of Islamism and Nazism...
You're clutching at straws Blagsta. :wave:
Are they fuck. A bunch of misanthropic losers a threat to Britain? Get a grip Aladdin.
Don't we often do so?