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I read that as tongue in cheek myself. Posters with a history of having a go at benefits claimants took it otherwise.
Maybe Sovereign could clarify what he meant?
I would never judge anyone on any kind of benefit, but at one point I probably would've - and harshly. But since those days I've grown up and my world has opened and mind has broadened and I've known a lot of people in situations I would have never have imagined knowing three-four years ago, who at first glance would appear to be undeserving or manipulating "the system". Some people do, some people don't... I've come to realise that it's none of my damn business either way. I don't make any assumptions as I will admit to having been proven wrong in the past after having jumped to a conclusions about people and situations. But it's [letting go of the immediate inclination to judge] easier said than done, and since we're all human with a bizarre immediate reaction to want everything to be "fairly" "distributed" (whether either of those words actually apply is a different story), I think we sometimes get it wrong and don't take the time to understand why someone would be able to - for example - have a job and be receiving benefits as on the surface they seem to be mutually exclusive. It doesn't make the people making the assumption a bad person, I hate these barbed comments and I don't think they do anyone any favours.
It's so easy to sling insults and tell people that they are prejudiced. Hey, we're none of us perfect.
Yes, you're probably right. But when after seeing these attitudes over and over and over and over again on the boards I get a little tired of reasoned arguments after a while, especially when it often falls on deaf ears.
People do change their minds about these things though, absolutely. I did - for one, completely :thumb:
people get schitz because of the way others around them treat that person. not enough touch, respect, being ignored, lack of understanding.
because we're all equally sensitive to the actions of others, the generality of the human condition means that some put these expressions down to themselves being inadequate, the less forgiving choose to rub alongside and 'keep up', others use their sense and judgment to find different and nicer people.
your average mentally ill in my experience (i was detained in hospital for over a year and live with 10 psychotic blokes) lack those skills with which to meet a better sort of person, and thus sit around believing themselves to be at fault.
society can be a great place to live, but when you lack the skills to fit, or are overly sensitive (like me) then it's really horrible.
for anybody reading whose thinking about seeing a psychiatrist, myself and my psycho flatm8 agreed you should never goto a psychiatrist to pour out your emotions. they're looking for brain functionality and will 'read-in' a brain disorder from pretty much anything you tell them. they're also equally useless beacuse for any 'delusions' you might be encountering they are strictly bound by rules of conduct not to ask you questions about these delusions as it will only re-enforce.
psychology is different ofcourse and well worth reading about or seeing. i don't think i've answered the quesiton, but i thought you might be interested to know a bit more seeing as many are ignorant.
Surely it's alot more than that?
we all know ourselves and what parts of the brains we like to use. we do this automatically without thinking about it, when something goes wrong with the brain you will personallly know about it im sure.
It must be because the part I quoted in my last post, I've had exactly the same thing happen to me, but haven't had any problems with my brain as such. (apart from migraine & something else, but that was because of something else)
Dear Sir,
I am looking to join Her Majesty's Reserve Forces. I voluntarily visited the mental health services and owing to a climate of discussion, i felt encouraged to disclose general observations which eventually led to be detained under the Mental Health Act 1983. I was diagnosed with a psychosis owing to cannabis misuse and I was detained in hospital for 'treatment'.
accordingly as discussed with my psychiatrist whose deplorable insight summoned remarks such as 'deshelved in atire' to the more tollerable yet equally tiring 'indifference to treatment', i was discharged into the Assertive Community Team's care with immediate effect. On discharge in entirety from the services, i immediately felt brighter and one's initiative and drive picked up.
Having presented some facts before you and whilst having regard to other entry conditions, could previous detention under s.3 present a bar to joining the Officer's Training Club or the Reserve Forces.
I was and will remain of honorable character throughout and present no liability to Her Majesty's forces.
Yours competently,
Alexander Edgar
Noone really can say anything definite about mental illness, because noone really understands the brain. Its so different for everyone.
Personally I have been brought up to treat everyone the same, so I don't stare at people in the street or give people a hard time for any disability they may have - mental or not. None of you know anything about my personal life.
And Blagta, the one other time apart from this thread have I discussed benefits on this board was another of The Sovereign's posts. Soooo, how about you calm down a bit.
I haven't made any offensive remarks in this thread until one was made by the OP. Well, I found it offensive anyway. And I suppose I might have been offensive in the other thread but I wasn't the only one.
Fuck it, I'm not going to carry on explaining myself to people. I'm entitled to my opinion as is everyone.
where you were just as nasty and judgemental.
You found someone with a mental health problem complaining about prejudice in society offensive? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
You got some issues girl.
Like I said, we're all entitled to our own opinions.
It doesnt make you a nice person though.
well, considering that he said his DLA was a form of compensation...
Why would I give a fuck if a load of people on an internet message board think I'm nice or not?!
I must admit I felt the comment that 'it's compensation for societies cruel treatment' a little OTT. I'm a tax payer and i've never done anything to be cruel to someone with such a condition. Neither is it something to be taken for granted. More societies way of helping those who are deemed less fortunate. Isn't society nice, shame i've never met them!