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PEP fact file?
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Mods...any chance of producing a fact file on thesite for PEP pills and other 'legal ecstasy alternatives'? It seems as someone else mentioned that these threads keep popping up all the time. It would be handy to have an unbiased source of information for visitors to refer to.
And if not...how about we collect some useful info in here?
And if not...how about we collect some useful info in here?
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Something nasty is going to happen.
So far there has only been one reported BZP-related death in the world, which was a woman in Zurich who took two pills and then drank 10 litres of water.
I think you are very right though, at the moment is there really any quality control? These pills are about as well regulated as ecstasy.
Have you seen how many legal highs there are containing BZP now? There are new ones coming out every week!
Obviously everyones jumping on the band waggon!
YET..
http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&useSecondary=true&ssDocName=CON2024549&ssTargetNodeId=389
I didnt know that, I knew BZP is used as a treatment for worms in cattle, but I didnt realise that meant it came under the Medicines Act, no wonder when I looked into who was selling the tablets they had all been withdrawn from sale.
Seriously, at this moment in time you could well be safer with ecstacy.
I had the worst comedown of my life and not too mention the horrible palpitations/zaps etc and strobe lighting at a rave made me feel like I was going to go over.
Watch out people.
It won't take much effort at all for our government to ban them...
But, much like GHB used to be under the Medicines Act as well, could suppliers (as long as they were outside the UK) keep selling them. If I remember rightly importing a drug under the Medicines Act for personal use isnt against the law.
These big white chalky ones fuck knows which ones. I got given them for free as ecstacy and then got told they were pep pills later on by someone else.
It doesnt seem to bother most people who buy from an unknown source.
They felt okay for a while and then it was just speedy nastiness, I also had some coke just remembered now, which will have made it worse.
And, I'm guessing you were drinking alcohol into the bargin?
http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?t=97575&highlight=pep+pills
As it goes, ended up in hospital with a mate of mine who took pills conatining BZP 2 weeks ago. http://everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/London_Underground_Smileys.cfm?iProductID=3760 - these were them.
He had 2, and a few cans of red bull. Couldn't stop twitching and shaking, pins and needles all over at first, then couldn't feel his arms and legs. When we got to hospital and he was wired up his heart beat was all over the place. Nobody in the hospital knew anything about the drug, they even phoned poisons control (or whatever it's called) and they didn't have a clue either. Just advised them to let him ride it out.
Read up on it on Erowid afterwards, and there are mixed reactions on there(with quite a few of them being negative experiences). He won't be doing them again thats for shure.
The system doesn't seem to be set up to address, assess and deal with anything that isn't of concern to the tabloid press. Its a cynical view I know but I think its entirely valid, there is an economy of unregulated and poorly understood chemicals being put about at the moment. Information of both users and service providers does not seem to be keeping pace with what is on the market, legal or otherwise.
When a few middle class kids top themselves then there will be some quickly written and badly planned law dealing with it. Its always the way.
I ended up on life support because of GHB once, I won't be doing that again but it was my fault. I didn't know anything about it and was stupid/drunk enough to take a massive swig of pure liquid.:yuck:
From my personal experience mostly anything in moderation is OK. I personally think it is bollocks that the government are now cracking down on PEP pill sales. It is just more infringement of our freedom of choice. & the mushroom ban OMFG don't get me started.
I had an experience of PEP pills mainly the Yellow Original ones, over 8 hrs I consumed 8, yerh a bit much maybe, but I had an earth shatteringly possitive experience, I didn't drink with them and didn't combine them with any other substance. It was truely brilliant.
Just thought I'd mention I went to a fest here in UK and had PEP pills the 'E' version and the Amphet version.
The 'E' version was ok but the Amphet version... wow! I was mashed beyond the scales of reality it was awesome. The first one had steam coming off my head for 20 minutes while trying to make a spliff with sweaty hands... The other 7 Amphet ones I took (a little over the guidelines, but hey one every hr or so felt good!!) just prolonged the incredible speeded up to fuck mouth munching, chatting everyones head off mania!
- I used to do a lot of speed in my teens but at 27 and none for over 6 years, these were the absolute tits!
And I really haven't got any idea of what come down people are talking about I just felt tired for a day till I slept and was fine...
All I have to say is HAAAARDCORE!!
Two good examples of drugs being dangerous if you dont know what you are doing.
As for snorting these PEP pills, I've got to ask, why? They seem to be of relatively low risk, but their action isnt fully understood so I really wouldnt piss about with them.
awful vomming shakes sweats paranoia and loads more i thought i was guna die
i think that a fact file on them would be an excellent sensible idea to stop twats like me thinking theyre fine, or at least much safer than ecstasy.